Cops: Carlie Brucia Found Dead (Fox News Update)

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[geedee]

SARASOTA, Fla.

[robertpaulsen]

That is where our prayers should now be directed.

[r9etb]

Many of us here -- me included -- would just as soon see Joseph P. Smith killed slowly and painfully. God help us all -- while it would satisfy, it can't be how God would have it happen.

If Smith is to die, I say just snuff him quickly, without ceremony or fuss, the same way we would kill other vermin. Let God take care of the rest of it.

I, personally, would favor not killing him at all -- just bury him in a featureless welded steel box, and feed him one tasteless meal per day until he dies of old age.

Or, better, give him something with which to hang himself in his cell. If it's good enough for Judas, it's good enough for Joseph P. Smith.

[MamaTexan]

(ACLU will run to the rescue, though!)

Unfortunately, you're probably right.

There IS one bright spot, however.

He will probably be attacked by a man-eating toilet in prison.

[Arrowhead1952]

I say cover him in honey and let the fire ants do the rest.

You must think about the pain fire ants inflict on a person just as I do. See post #25.

[WKB]

He meeds to suffer a long long time before he dies
while the abortion crowd begs to spare his life.

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

I say that God didn't give Florida all of those alligators for no good reason.

[Jim Noble]

What an awful, horrible, nauseating story.

I am the father of four little girls, and I can't imagine a worse crime.

Unless it is repeatedly releasing violent sociopaths back into society after brutalizing them further for a few years.

The whole criminal justice-prison complex has lost its way and is a threat to society, as well as everyone's little girls.

Once someone demonstrates a proclivity to assault others with intent to cause harm, they should be isolated permanently, or killed (to be up front, I strongly favor the latter).

There is no reason to believe that their desire to commit these horrendous acts can be modified or eliminated. Prison for a term of years is not punishment to them-to be supported while in the company of their own kind, and able to prey on a constant supply of weaker people, is like going to a resort for you or I.

In addition to which, a prison term ends while their perverse desires, and the ability to carry them out, does not.

We send them to prison because we (rightly) have a horror of prison, as all normal people should, and from this we draw the incorrect inference that we are doing something horrible to them.

Prison does not reform or correct them (in many cases it makes them more efficient and better predators), and they all get out.

The population of violent sociopaths is not so large that they could not be isolated or eliminated.

Let's get going.

[mewzilla]

Florida? I doubt it. Floridians and us Texans, IMHO, "get it."

A guy with a rap sheet like that was out on the street, and Floridians get it? Not all of them apparently.

[Major_Risktaker]

Who is Joseph P. Smith?

Smith has been arrested at least 13 times in Florida since 1993

He also was placed on probation for aggravated battery in 1993

He was arrested in 1997 in Manatee County on kidnapping and false imprisonment charges, but was acquitted a year later.

He also was placed on probation for heroin charges in 1999.

He served 17 months in state prison for heroin possession and prescription drug fraud and was released on New Year's Day 2003.

He was arrested eight days later on a cocaine possession charge and was placed on probation for three years.

We are all responsible for this crime.
Think about it.

"As political and economic freedom... diminishes, sexual freedom tends compensatingly to increase.

And the dictator... will do well to encourage that freedom.

In conjunction with the freedom to daydream under the influence of dope, movies and the radio, it will help to reconcile his subjects to the servitude."

Aldous Huxley summarized it well in Brave New World:

[Area51]

To bad something can't be done to the judge that wouldn't jail him.

18 posted on 02/06/2004 6:04:25 AM PST by sticker
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Impeachment. Contact your State Representative TODAY!
Don't ask it, DEMAND IT.
This judicial nonsense MUST STOP!

[Area51]

I heard on the radio that he told them where to find the body. My guess is that it's in exchange for life in prison.

33 posted on 02/06/2004 6:43:24 AM PST by robertpaulsen
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With any luck Bubba will commute his sentence to 3 days served with early release by coroner.

[Ciexyz]

Get that judge off the bench.

[Ciexyz]

The justice system gave this creep pass after pass. The laws are in place, they could have jailed him for the little things and gotten him off the street.

[Area51]

Judge Harry M Rapkin Sarasota

Address:
Judicial Center
2002 Ringling Blvd
PO Box 48927
Sarasota FL 34230 (941/363-7800)

HARRY M. RAPKIN
Circuit Court Judge
Appointed to Circuit Court - May 1992
J.D. Seton Hall University - 1968
B.S. University of Miami - 1965

[archy]

I agree completely. I have always felt that if they had something to fear from prison then they might think twice before commiting this crap. I advocate doing all further medical research and testing on prisoners and give the animals a break.

The other side of that coin is that in that instance, the criminals have nothing to lose by fighting it out to the bitter end, tasking as many others along with them, or eliminating witnesses if there's the slightest chance they could link them to the punishment you suggest.

We really don't do a particularly effective job at rehabilitating those who really can be rehabilitated, no more than we do an effective job of executing those who we'd really be better off without having populating the world. Since drug or alcohol use is commonplace in the circles of most professional criminals and recidivists, maybe one cheap answer would be to keep them stoned on whatever confiscated narcotics are cheap and easily available. If they want to live behind bars and get their free dope/booze, they'd be much less of a risk to the rest of us.

It was reported that negotiations with him led to her being found. That's enough evidence for a public hanging as far as I'm concerned. Let everyone come watch what will happen to child murderers.

Having worked three child disappearances involving kids about Carlie Brucia's age, I'd be more inclined to offer a noce comfy jail cell as an alternative to the death penalty in exchange for recovering the victim's remains and giving the family that final peace. In that third case in which we never found the missing 12-year-old girl's body, I'd give an awful lot to be able to let her parents know. If still alive, she'd be 33 years old now; instead the best I can offer is the possibility that some extrajudicial justice happened in her case under circumstances worthy of a novel.

I don't think there's any one hard-and-fast rule for dealing with such crimes, or such criminals. The more consistant the system is, the easier it is for the criminal to exploit or *work* it. I prefer to offer confusion to our enemies.

But in any event, I don't favour hanging. Placement in a cement mixer along with a few dozen bowling balls and concrete blocks, while the truck takes a drive of the places the victim used to live and stroll are more in line with what I'd suggest. And if most certainly cruel, such a procedure would not be unusual if used frequently, and the constitutional prohibition is on punishments that are cruel and unusual....

-archy-/-

[Indie]

I read somewhere the other day that if we exectuted 1 million of the criminals in this country we would see a huge change yet the left and some christians have fought so hard for the criminals that what, only 4000 have been executed since the 70's.

Sick how the leftists want to protect criminals, yet have been responsible for the murder of 45 million unborn human beings without a second thought.

And none of us have done a thing to stop it. We are all responsible for sickos like this guy. We elect the **** lawyers that make the laws that keep them protected...and which also keep the lawyers in business, no matter which side of the case they are on. Endless appeals, and years without sentences carried out.

Until we have the guts to take our guns and march on the legislature and the courts and demand change, evil will continue to envelop this country. [And please, no "but we have to obey the law!" BS] We need to give them a "speedy" trial (Expedited for capital crimes) and a speedy execution.
/rant over

[Arrowhead1952]

I say that God didn't give Florida all of those alligators for no good reason.

A few bites from a gator is too good for the SOB. Several thousand fire ant bites over several hours creating such an itching and burning rash first, a few bites from a gator would still be too good.

Fire ants until he is dead, then feed him to the gators, that I agree with.

[NorseWood]

Even if he negotiated getting out of the death penalty, scum like him do not last long in prison. They seem to have a way of meeting an early death. Child killers are frequently "taken care of" by their fellow inmates.

[dfwgator]

Child killers are frequently "taken care of" by their fellow inmates.

Not before they have a chance to be the "Belle of the Ball."

[ridesthemiles]

hope this SOB sleeps well knowing that by neglecting his SWORN DUTY to enforce the law he cost a 11 year old Girl her life.

How do we as citizens keep incentives to do a good job within the ranks of law enforcement and the probation departments when according to this story, the probation guy took this CREEP perp to court and asked the judge to revoke his parole?
This isn't just a sadness for the family and the friends of the victim. IMO, the probation person will have many sleepless nights because of the failure of the system he/she works in when he/she asked for a revocation of parole and the judge didn't listen. I doubt the judge will even think twice about his role in this event.

I don't know if Florida has elected judges or appointed one. If elected, then IMPEACH the SOB. Otherwise, how about a fax/e-mail/letter campaign to Jeb Bush to remove this judge from the bench?