[Condor51]

With all due respect, 'innocent to proven guilty', ONLY applies to and in the judicial system, aka 'court'. Not in a free peoples right to their own beliefs, or thinking about any alleged 'suspect' in a crime.

So you can think and/or believe he's 'innocent' all you want, but others can think and believe he's guilty as hell and can also opine as to those beliefs. BTW, isn't it odd that in law that the term 'innocent' is a non-entity in a plea or verdict, but that it's 'not guilty' that's used?!?

[Theo]

So you can think and/or believe he's 'innocent' all you want ...

I haven't formed an opinion about the suspect, so I don't believe he's either guilty or innocent. I just don't know enough information about what evidence they have against him....