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To: tuesday afternoon
"Are you saying the transgender was a woman who was genetically a man?"

Yup.

"You mean if someone changes there external genitalia they can change their sex on their birth certificate?"

Yup, or if it changes on its own...

"I would guess genetic aberrations of gender (which, by definition, does not count people who believe their gender is wrong) are statistically insignificant."

First, I think you should probably use the term "biological sex" here to avoid confusion. I think that someone who believes his or her gender is wrong definitely has an aberration of gender.

Second, I doubt you would see it as insignificant if it were your daughter's/son's life impacted -- that your daughter found out that she couldn't marry the man she loved because she turned out to be a man, herself. It happens...


456 posted on 02/04/2004 4:00:47 PM PST by Kahonek
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To: Kahonek
You are referring to GID: "gender identity disorder."

I know an oline ale friend who many years ago had that disorder; but through therapy he is now married and a father and happily still a man. And he has had this GID since childhood.

Thus, I will always believe that gays as well can change their proclivities.
465 posted on 02/04/2004 4:13:21 PM PST by FUMETTI (John Kerry: Stone Faced Weasel)
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To: Kahonek
"Are you saying the transgender was a woman who was genetically a man?"

Yup.

And you know this because you read it in the newspaper? Any links to articles?

...Second, I doubt you would see it as insignificant if it were your daughter's/son's life impacted -- that your daughter found out that she couldn't marry the man she loved because she turned out to be a man, herself. It happens...

Those are two different cases: a woman - genetically a man - wants to marry a man vs. a woman - genetically a man - who wants to marry another woman.

According to your example, the latter would be legal, not the former.

471 posted on 02/04/2004 4:21:32 PM PST by tuesday afternoon
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