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Mass. High Court Rules for Gay Marriage
Associated Press Writer ^ | Wed, Feb 04, 2004 | JENNIFER PETER

Posted on 02/04/2004 8:24:28 AM PST by presidio9

BOSTON - The Massachusetts high court ruled Tuesday that only full, equal marriage rights for gay couples — rather than civil unions — would meet the edict of its November decision, erasing any doubts that the nation's first same-sex marriages would take place in the state beginning in mid-May.

AP Photo Slideshow: Same-Sex Marriage Issues

The court issued the opinion in response to a request from the state Senate about whether Vermont-style civil unions, which conveyed the benefits — but not the title of marriage — would meet constitutional muster.

The much-anticipated opinion sets the stage for next Wednesday's Constitutional Convention, where the Legislature will consider an amendment that would legally define marriage as a union between one man and one woman. Without the opinion, Senate President Robert Travaglini had said the vote would be delayed.

The Supreme Judicial Court ruled in November that same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry, and gave the Legislature six months to change state laws to make it happen.

But almost immediately, the vague wording of the ruling left lawmakers — and advocates on both side of the issue — uncertain if Vermont-style civil unions would satisfy the court's decision.

The state Senate asked for more guidance from the court and sought the advisory opinion, which was made public Wednesday morning when it was read into the Senate record.


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To: presidio9
Those who say a constitutional amendment in all states and at the national level is unnecessary are either naive, in a a dream-world, or devious.

The amendment route appears to be the ONLY route for protecting marriage.
21 posted on 02/04/2004 8:36:56 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
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To: presidio9
Those who say a constitutional amendment in all states and at the national level is unnecessary are either naive, in a a dream-world, or devious.

The amendment route appears to be the ONLY route for protecting marriage.
22 posted on 02/04/2004 8:36:57 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
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To: presidio9
Dear Lord help us.........
23 posted on 02/04/2004 8:36:57 AM PST by apackof2 (I won't be satisfied until I am too smart for my own good)
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To: tomahawk
Do you feel ever so cool saying that knee jerk little statement?
24 posted on 02/04/2004 8:37:32 AM PST by cajungirl (John Kerry has no botox and I have a bridge to sell you!)
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To: I_love_weather
Be gone troll.
25 posted on 02/04/2004 8:37:34 AM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: hattend
Quote "Nice troll.
Wrong lure."

Troll? LOL...nice try

I have no problem with this legal ruling. I am a firm believer in equal rights...

Just because you don't believe in this doesn't mean you have the rigth to tell someone else what to do or how to live.

Your beliefs are just that...your beliefs.

26 posted on 02/04/2004 8:37:53 AM PST by I_love_weather
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To: KantianBurke
Thanks but that doesn't answer my question. I was just wondering if you were doing the same thing I was doing a couple of weeks ago. I was expecting the president to stop gay marriage, or else.
27 posted on 02/04/2004 8:38:00 AM PST by biblewonk (I must try to answer all bible questions.)
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To: presidio9
If the Mass. lawmakers had any (tennis) balls, they would tell the court to take their ruling and shove it up their black robes.

If I was in the legislature in Mass., I would be very concerned about a court trying to tell me what I have to do. Exactly what can the court do if the legislature refuses to comply with the court's dictation?
28 posted on 02/04/2004 8:38:15 AM PST by whereasandsoforth (tagged for migratory purposes only)
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To: Dane
I believe the MA Supreme Court has ordered the MA legislature to enact gay marriage into law.

If they do, then this becomes a federal issue under the Full Faith and Credit Clause.

Pres. Bush must stop this.
29 posted on 02/04/2004 8:38:33 AM PST by tomahawk
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To: tomahawk
If Pres. Bush doesn't support stopping this slide into Sodomite Hell via a Constitutional amendment, he doesn't deserve to be President, and say hello to Pres. Kerry

Congress is the body who sets the constitutional amenmdment bandwagon going. The President has nothing to do with it.

But you already knew that.

30 posted on 02/04/2004 8:38:33 AM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
I believe the MA Supreme Court has ordered the MA legislature to enact gay marriage into law.

If they do, then this becomes a federal issue under the Full Faith and Credit Clause.

Pres. Bush must stop this via support for a Constitutional amendment ASAP.
31 posted on 02/04/2004 8:38:57 AM PST by tomahawk
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To: hattend
He's not a troll. He's been here longer than I have, even.

I object not to the recognition of civil unions, but to the courts deciding morality for the rest of us.

32 posted on 02/04/2004 8:39:48 AM PST by RightWingAtheist
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To: I_love_weather
This is not about "EQUAL RIGHTS"! Talk about deception!
33 posted on 02/04/2004 8:39:52 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: presidio9
All doubt has been removed. It's time to impeach and disbar their High Bench and replace them with real people.

May those justices' have to live under the actions they consider "just".
34 posted on 02/04/2004 8:40:00 AM PST by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: xzins
The amendment route appears to be the ONLY route for protecting marriage.

Actually Congress could simply remove the ability for federal courts to hear such cases. Congress sets the jurisdiction for the courts and with a few exceptions that are in the Constitution, can prohibit certain types of cases from going before the courts. This would leave it as a state issue and not force the will of one state on all other states.

35 posted on 02/04/2004 8:40:05 AM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: presidio9
AP Photo Slideshow: Same-Sex Marriage Issues

Ick.

36 posted on 02/04/2004 8:40:56 AM PST by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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To: kdmhcdcfld
No need to vomit here. Just start thinking about how a constitutional amendment is gotten because it may take that. But hey, don't be throwing up.
37 posted on 02/04/2004 8:41:07 AM PST by cajungirl (John Kerry has no botox and I have a bridge to sell you!)
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To: cajungirl
I am very disappointed that Pres. Bush has not been doing more to bring this issue to the forefront, as liberal judges try to impose gay marriage on the country.

His State of the Union address was good on this point, now I (and most of the base) want him to back it up.
38 posted on 02/04/2004 8:41:37 AM PST by tomahawk
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To: COEXERJ145
"Congress sets the jurisdiction for the courts and with a few exceptions that are in the Constitution, can prohibit certain types of cases from going before the courts."

That's all well and good until either the Rats re-obtain power in Congress or the RINOs force our hand. Its better to end this issue once and for all with an Amendment.
39 posted on 02/04/2004 8:41:37 AM PST by KantianBurke (Principles, not blind loyalty)
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To: tomahawk
I believe the MA Supreme Court has ordered the MA legislature to enact gay marriage into law.

Yes they have and the Mass. legislature can put a stop to this by putting an amendment in their state Constitution. I have no idea if an amendment would pass.

If it doesn't then the US congress gets the ball rolling on an amendment to the US Constitution to be sent to the states. The President has nothing to do with passing constitutional amendments.

40 posted on 02/04/2004 8:42:04 AM PST by Dane
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