Punitive measures of German KFOR against Serbian monks

PRIZREN, Feb 3 (Tanjug) - Monks of the monastery of Saint Archangels in Prizren can no longer count on the escort of German KFOR, who have also banned them from using the military power generator, while the duty priest at Vladicanski dvor in Prizren is being denied food, the Raska-Prizren Eparchy stated on Tuesday.

>>>>"That Albanians were killed by KLA members, this is likely true. This is true for every war, those deemed as collaborators or traitors are often killed. "

So, could you enlighten us, how "Albanians" who "were killed by KLA members" are deemed as?

No you do not condone killing, you only find it acceptable that people deemed to be traitors are being killed.

Good. Albanian extremists were the citizens of Yugoslavia, they held Yugoslav pasports and were entrusted to serve in armed forces. But they chose to rebell against the state, murdering postal workers, police and army, many of whom were fellow Albanians. If someone in the U.S. joined the group with the sole aim to murder National Guardsman, State trooper or forrest rangers, if someone helped foreigners to infiltrate U.S to join armed rebellion, what he would be deemed as?

That is exactly what extremist Albanians did. If they are killed, what's the problem? As you say, "This is true for every war, those deemed as collaborators or traitors are often killed.

No......... systemic murders of Albanians by the KLAhmmmmmmmm........perhaps one should take a look at these articles. The last article "why does Kfor support Remi" provides a murder by murder list of KLA murders under Remi's command.

KLA killed moderate & loyalist Albanians in 1998 and 1999
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a3a8d74920fd6.htm

KLA members of Remi's unit arrested for killing Albanians during 98/99
/focus/fr/617945/posts

KLA murdering Rampage against Albanians says Adem Demaci - post #14
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3bd1b54b486f.htm

KLA murders some 1,000 Albanians under UNMIK's nose
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/765813/posts

KLA Prevent Reconstruction of Racak Event
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/focus/news/646128/posts

KLA- British troops hunt down former KLA men the West once trained to fight Serbs
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/846509/posts

Kosovo - 4 KLA witnesses finger KLA Doc as slicing victim's head off
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/focus/news/645046/posts

Kosovo - KLA General Ceku killed 225 civilians in 1991
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a38a9d76f6146.htm

Kosovo - Photos of KLA leaders at their trials for war crimes against ALbanians
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/785313/posts

Kosovo - Remi Arrested by Kfor for murdering Albanian civilians
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/731440/posts

Kosovo - Why does Kfor support KLA killer Remi ?
http://www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a38a336d53291.htm

The KLA I speak of is the popular uprising that began after Milosevic showed he was willing to indiscriminantly kill Albanians, and ended after NATO troops rolled in.

Okay, I gotta speak up now because this statement is nothing more than a steaming pile of horsecrap. There probably WOULD have been much indiscriminate killing of Albanians if Milosevic had NOT ordered the 3rd Army NOT to harm any Albanians that were not harming Serbs. I've talked to several different former members of the Serb regular army that were in Kosovo and they claim it would have been a real slaughter if Milosevic hadn't had them on such a short leash. You and I very well know that Albanians are the most hated people in all of Europe and this back and forth ongoing struggle between the Serbs and Albanians of Southern Serbia puts the Serbs at the forefront of Europe's stuggles with Albanianism.

I wish you people would get your act together and get your facts straight and stop making me defend Milosevic.

By the way, you're the ONLY person of Albanian Orthodox heritage I've ever even heard of that supports the Albanian Muslims/Catholics in their conquest of Southern Serbia.

You have spoken to members of the regular Serb army in Kosovo, I have spoken to some 30 Kosovar refugees (since it seems you've been keeping track of my comments you will likely already know this was as a translator). For a couple of them I translated as they went to regular sessions at the shrink. What I say, I say out of conviction, I do not believe it to be "a steaming pile of horsecrap" as you so elegantly put it.

Whatever opinion you have of "us people", you cannot deny almost 2 million people the chance to have freedom, especially considering what Milosevic put them through... Oh wait, you admire Milosevic... then I'm sorry you feel that way, but the only reason you even have a chance to feel that way is because the Free World (if only Clinton was not involved in this) decided to put a stop to this psychopath. Do you really believe this wa all about Kosovo? I don't think so. Milosevic was attacked for Kosovo as well as Bosnia, and Croatia.

Orthodox Albanians created their own autocephalous church, because both Greeks and the Serbs used their respective churches to establish hegemony over other peoples in the Balkans, this is the same reason Macedonia is trying to form an autocephalous Orthodox Church. I know many other Orthodox Albanians who supported and continue supporting the Kosovars in their struggle for freedom. Look, I'm not stupid, I do not claim or believe that everybody involved with the KLA were angels, but Kosovars waited for a long time to fight for freedom. The only reason the KLA went from a small extremist movement to a major popular uprising, is because things had reached a breaking point, and because Milosevic showed he had no intention of giving even an inch.
Would the expulsion of a million people have been acceptable to you if only 10 000 people were killed, 8 000 people, how about 100 people? Do you believe they would have been allowed back if the KLA had been destroyed and NATO gave up bombing after a couple of weeks?

Everytime I get one of these posts, I get this vibe, that no matter what I do or say, it will not make a lick of difference. The mark of an intelligent person is the ability to reform his/her opinions, if you never find this happenning, there is something wrong. I am not saying you should reform your opinions on Kosovo, just that you should try to keep an open-mind, and make sure that you're not reinforcing your opinions with biased information (I am likely a bit guilty of this one myself).

And finally, a question: do you think the hatred of Albanians is deserved?

Whatever opinion you have of "us people", you cannot deny almost 2 million people the chance to have freedom,

"You people" is in reference to Serbophobes and yes you can deny almost 2 million people freedom. How many Serbs were told to leave Yugoslavia and become new members of new countries Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosova?

especially considering what Milosevic put them through...

Oh boohoo. As dirty and ugly as the more recent wars in the Balkans have been, they were picnics compared to what happened to Serbs in WW2. NOTHING that has EVER happened to Croats, Bosnian Muslims, or Albanians can compare to the suffering of the Serbs in the holocaust at the hands of Croats, Bosnian Muslims, and Albanians. Your pathetic argument of especially considering what Milosevic put them through... would much better be served as an argument why the Serbs should be the ones that are guaranteed their freedom rather than be subjected to waking up one morning reduced to the statis of "minority" in an historicly hostile country, but I'm not going to lower myself to such a lame level as to claim this is or ever was the solution.

Oh wait, you admire Milosevic...

Wrong again. Dead wrong. I told you to stop making me defend Milosevic. I don't admire the man, but I'm as interrorant of lies as I am of bad men

Kosovars waited for a long time to fight for freedom.

Like hell they did. The Albanians went on a blood rampage against Serbs from 1974-89. My family lived there before that time, during that time, and after that time. Something had to be done to stop the attacks against Serb civilians. In 1989, how many Republics in Yugoslavia vetoed an adjustment to Kosovo's autonomy? It may be your wish for the world to forget what happened to the Serbs in WW2 or in Kosovo from 1974-89, but I can assure you the Serbs will not forget.

Everytime I get one of these posts, I get this vibe, that no matter what I do or say, it will not make a lick of difference.

Awww... don't give up hope. I'm sure there's more than a few people out there that will eat up the crap you're dishing out.

The mark of an intelligent person is the ability to reform his/her opinions, if you never find this happenning, there is something wrong. I am not saying you should reform your opinions on Kosovo, just that you should try to keep an open-mind, and make sure that you're not reinforcing your opinions with biased information (I am likely a bit guilty of this one myself).

Each and everyday I wake up I look at the world with a fresh pair of eyes and realise that everything I thought I knew when I went to bed could possibly be wrong. I've changed my mind and opinions damn near every subject related to the Balkans several times over. I've criticized Serbian attrocities in each war and believe they fully mishandled the insurgency in Kosovo (Not that I believe it would have made a difference in the outcome. I'll never foget a meeting I was in in 1996 when I was told Kosovo was already lost).

Screw biased information. I don't believe in the pathetic Serbian propoganda anymore than I do in the pathetic Croat, Bosnian Muslim, or Albanian propoganda.

I didn't fully address your middle paragraph but I could probably write a book detailing the evidense I have that none of your points are valid.

And finally, a question: do you think the hatred of Albanians is deserved?

Not based on the Albanians I know personally. Each of them is a gem of a person. There are many Albanians that I choose NOT to know because they have a reputation of being "Little Arkans". I know of way too many of them and I steer clear of them.

>>>"You people" is in reference to Serbophobes and yes you can deny almost 2 million people freedom. How many Serbs were told to leave Yugoslavia and become new members of new countries Croatia, Bosnia, and Kosova?

Yes, I am a Serbophobe, however it is a fear phobia not a hate phobia. I fear Serbs because I see one thing they have plenty of, grudges. They have a grudge against Albanians, a grudge against Croats, a grudge against Bosnians, a grudge against Slovenes, and Montenegrins, and Macedonians, and they have a grudge against the U.S. and the West. I fear that these grudges will not go away, I fear that innocent people will once again have to pay in the future for the grudges that the Serbs hold, I fear that the whole region will be pulled into a spiraling cycle of violence, because the Serbs feel victimized and they want payback. If this happens I will remember your words "... but I can assure you the Serbs will not forget.".
And you know, I'm sorry you had to wake up from your little utopian dream that was Yugoslavia, but maybe you should consider that it might not have been such a utopia for nonSerbs.

>>>NOTHING that has EVER happened to Croats, Bosnian Muslims, or Albanians can compare to the suffering of the Serbs in the holocaust at the hands of Croats, Bosnian Muslims, and Albanians.

I'm going to reply to this one using your own words:
"Screw biased information. I don't believe in the pathetic Serbian propoganda anymore than I do in the pathetic Croat, Bosnian Muslim, or Albanian propoganda. "

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