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1 posted on 02/03/2004 7:25:49 AM PST by Valin
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To: Valin
Yesterdays Thread
Campaign Finance Reform Muzzles Political Dissent
eco-logic Powerhouse February 2, 2004 Dr. Ron Paul
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1070073/posts?page=2


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2 posted on 02/03/2004 7:28:54 AM PST by Valin (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: RiflemanSharpe; Lazamataz; proud American in Canada; Congressman Billybob; backhoe; jmc813; ...
Hugh & Series, Critical & Pulled by JimRob
Special to FreeRepublic | 17 December 2003 | John Armor (Congressman Billybob)

This is nothing like the usual whine by someone whose post was pulled. JimRob pulled my previous thread for a good reason. "If direct fund-raising were permitted on FR, it would soon be wall-to-wall fund-raising."

So, let's start again correctly. This is about civil disobedience to support the First Amendment and challenge the TERRIBLE CFR decision of the Supreme Court to uphold a terrible law passed by Congress and signed by President Bush.

All who are interested in an in-your-face challenge to the 30- and 60-day ad ban in the Campaign Finance "Reform" Act, please join in. The pattern is this: I'm looking for at least 1,000 people to help the effort. I will run the ad, and risk fines or jail time to make it work -- AND get national support.

But there should be NO mentions of money in this thread, and not in Freepmail either. This is JimRob's electronic home, and we should all abide his concerns.

Put your comments here. Click on the link above, and send me your e-mail addresses. I will get back to you by regular e-mail with the practical details.

This CAN be done. This SHOULD be done. But it MUST be done in accord with JimRob's guidelines.


Fair enough?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1042394/posts



Update
I've already tested the idea of my in-your-face challenge ads, first in the print media and then deliberately illegal on TV, with certain editors I have a long relationship with. I could trust these two gentlemen, one in the print media and the other in the broadcast media, with a "heads up" on what I am planning. Both said they wanted to know, in advance, when I am about to do this.

The bottom line is clear. If I am willing to put my neck on the line, with the possibilities of a fine and jail time, THAT effort will put CFR back on the front page in all media. And that is part of the point. There's not much value of going in-your-face against the enemies of the First Amendment unless the press takes up the story and spreads the word. It is now clear they will do exactly that.

Update 2
QUICK PROGRESS REPORT, ANSWERING A SUPPORTER'S QUESTION:
We have about 15% of the needed 1,000 sign-ups.

Spread the word, direct folks to the front page link on my website.

Google-bomb the phrase "anti-CFR" directing readers to that page and link. (We're already #2 and #4 on Google.)

Target date is now August, since the NC primary looks to be put back to September. (Remember, the ad isn't illegal until the 29th day before the election.)


Cordially,

John / Billybob


Note if you are interested in more on this please contact Valin or Congressman Billybob

3 posted on 02/03/2004 7:30:24 AM PST by Valin (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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Peter Robinson: But you're asking me then as a dim associate justice, to vote in favor of a body of law that impinges on free speech on the basis of your say so. There's corruption only nobody can find it.

Any justice declaring that the 1st Amendment can be tossed out by a law is a dim.

4 posted on 02/03/2004 7:39:50 AM PST by 4CJ (||) Support free speech and stop CFR - visit www.ArmorforCongress.com (||)
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To: Valin; DustyMoment; Eastbound
Now Rick says, well, they can do it if they jump through various hoops and set up another kind of organization. But, that's exactly the kind of problem. People don't want to do that. They want to speak as that group.

That's one reason why CFR abridges the freedom of speech.

Bradley Smith: If any of McCain-Feingold is upheld, we'll have more regulation and I think five years from now, we'll be in more heavily regulated environment but we'll continue to hear all the same complaints about how some people are raising too much money, about how it's so unfair, about how it's so un-corrupting. And that will continue to be used for more regulation, more regulation, but the complaints will never cease.

Peter Robinson: Well, what's the way out?

Bradley Smith: The way out is to go back to the idea of the First Amendment, that it's not up to the government to decide who has spoken too much and who has spoken too little; it's not up to the government to decide whose advertising is a sham and whose advertising is real advertising, that this is something too dangerous to leave in the hands of government and will be taken over by special interests and distance the people from politics.

If we can't persuade Congress to repeal this prior to the 60-day abridgement, then we need to support new candidates who have a better respect for the Bill of Rights. Given filing deadline scenarios, that may mean write-in campaigns.

9 posted on 02/03/2004 10:39:28 AM PST by The_Eaglet (Conservative chat on IRC: http://searchirc.com/search.php?F=exact&T=chan&N=33&I=conservative)
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To: Valin
"And, I said to him, how many people in the entire country really have a working knowledge of the campaign finance laws? And Mr. Ginsberg thought very carefully and for quite a long time, and then he answered, fewer than a dozen."

Makes me wonder if McCain and Feingold are included in that dozen? Maybe it's like a lot of other bills that get glossed over, written by special interest groups and drug through the halls of congress attached to a little black satchel waiting for the first sucker to snatch it up. Or am I just being too kind? /sarc

But then, Kucinich didn't know what was in his 'ban exotic space weapons' bill either.

11 posted on 02/03/2004 4:00:36 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: Valin
Forward Link:

How to Achieve Real Campaign Finance Reform-Daily Campaign Finance Reform Thread - Day 55

14 posted on 02/04/2004 11:40:56 PM PST by The_Eaglet (Opportunity: http://www.peroutka2004.com)
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