[Mike4Freedom]

It is easy to pontificate about other peoples lives at risk, versus your perceived rights. How easy would it be if terrorism reached out and touch you or your family. (God forbid).

Life is always a trade off. It is clear to me that the odds of me and my family meeting up with a terrorist are vanishingly small. The odds of having a run-in with an Ashcroft JBT is far greater and the risk extends much farther in time.

[jstolarczyk]

Ignore the Patriot Act, you and your family have a greater chance of harassment from a police officer after some crime story nut, claims they saw you on "Americas Most Wanted" I am sorry you hold other peoples lives so cheaply. I do not. Terrorists, American or Arab, are a threat to humanity and deserve no protection afforded to non-combantants.

[Southack]

"Life is always a trade off. It is clear to me that the odds of me and my family meeting up with a terrorist are vanishingly small. The odds of having a run-in with an Ashcroft JBT is far greater..."

There you go again. Here you are blaming Ashcroft for a precedent set back to WW2 times with the Geneva Convention.

Look kid, I've already explained to you that Bush didn't invent the treatment of enemy combatants...yet you persist in pretending that Bush and Ashcroft are your boogeymen.

That sort of dishonesty has no place in civilized society.

Either correctly place the blame on the Geneva Convention rather than on the harmless Patriot Act, or else leave this forum.