[templar]

Are you stating that evolutionary theory is responsible for our personal and social "decline"?

I am stating that it is a factor. Think of the view of the constitution as a 'living' document that 'evolves' over time. That would be one example, ther are many more that should be easily observable by anyone looking for them.

What's this mean? We should never advocate change/growth? Sometimes?

It means we are abandoning absolute principles in favor of 'evolving' standards: that we no longer accept unchanging truth as self evident, but that we now believe that what is true today need not be true tomorrow (morally, ethically, legally, politically). This is the end result of accepting evolution as a valid fact and expanding it to encompass all of our life (whether we wish to aknowlege we have done so or not).

[Shryke]

It means we are abandoning absolute principles in favor of 'evolving' standards: that we no longer accept unchanging truth as self evident, but that we now believe that what is true today need not be true tomorrow (morally, ethically, legally, politically).

Interesting. From what I can gather, it appears to me that you feel our current understanding of the universe, society, and ethics is right on the money. There is no need to progress. We've achieved enlightenment. Is this correct?

[Dimensio]

It means we are abandoning absolute principles in favor of 'evolving' standards: that we no longer accept unchanging truth as self evident, but that we now believe that what is true today need not be true tomorrow (morally, ethically, legally, politically). This is the end result of accepting evolution as a valid fact and expanding it to encompass all of our life (whether we wish to aknowlege we have done so or not).

Then clearly the problem is not evolution, but people misapplying evolution outside of biology, where it does not apply.

I'm not sure what you're trying to argue. Are you saying that evolution should be rejected not based upon whether it is the best explanation to fit observed evidence, but because some morons don't know when it stops?

[js1138]

...we now believe that what is true today need not be true tomorrow (morally, ethically, legally, politically).

Sort of like the laws in Leviticus?