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To: spunkets
So what? It [macroevolution] is consistent with the facts.

Not really. Not at all.

You might read Not by Chance for a discussion of the probabilities involved. I remember being taught in college that there is a small probabililty that when you release a stone, it will go up. But one ought not to expect such a result. Spetner essentially shows that stones should be falling up all over the place by comparison with the probabilities that any macroevolution actually occurred. (my characterization)

It's not consistent with our notion of chromosome pairs either. We have 23 pairs. It's pretty hard to evolve "gradually over a long time" from 22 (or 24).

ML/NJ

186 posted on 02/02/2004 6:08:41 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: ml/nj
"I remember being taught in college that there is a small probabililty that when you release a stone, it will go up. But one ought not to expect such a result.

The probability that the stone will go up(against gravity) is zero. The physics give a poisson error distribution. That means the measurement + error will always be greater than zero and in the direction of the field. Also, the probability that a particle, or quanta will traverse an infinite barrier is zero.

"Not by Chance"

It's not a discussion. It's a $10 book. A worthwhile treatise on the subject would be worth considerably over $200. For $10 that's what I would expect-the equivalent of stones falling upward. For your information there is not enough known to even begin plugging in believable numbers. That's because their aren't enough known details.

"It's pretty hard to evolve "gradually over a long time" from 22 (or 24)."

Hard notwithstanding, it happened.

190 posted on 02/02/2004 6:38:15 PM PST by spunkets
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To: ml/nj
You might read Not by Chance for a discussion of the probabilities involved. I remember being taught in college that there is a small probabililty that when you release a stone, it will go up. But one ought not to expect such a result. Spetner essentially shows that stones should be falling up all over the place by comparison with the probabilities that any macroevolution actually occurred. (my characterization)

Perhaps we can explore this further. What is the "probability" that a stone will go up when released? How is this calculated? Is this an unqualified probability, or is there an actual explanation as to what conditions would cause the stone to go up? How were the probabilities of "any macroevolution" calculated?
222 posted on 02/03/2004 10:12:28 AM PST by Dimensio (The only thing you feel when you take a human life is recoil. -- Frank "Earl" Jones)
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