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Georgia Kept Adding to Crime Database
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Posted on 01/31/2004 6:37:39 AM PST by Stew Padasso

Georgia Kept Adding to Crime Database

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DICK PETTYS The Associated Press

ATLANTA (AP) _ In a crisply worded statement last October, Gov. Sonny Perdue said he was ending Georgia's participation in a multi-state crime database that tracks the personal details even of law-abiding citizens.

Yet several months later, the state still was pumping information into the database. Top Georgia law enforcement officials even attended a meeting of its members _ two weeks after Perdue's announcement.

State participation appeared to come to an end _ again _ on Friday when the administration, confronted with documents obtained by The Associated Press, said they were now pulling the plug for certain.

``We thought it already had (ended),'' said Dan McLagan, the governor's communications director. ``There was a miscommunication.''

Orders were given Friday to terminate the state's participation, he said.

The multistate database, known as Matrix _ short for the Multistate Anti-Terrorism Information Exchange _ combines records submitted by the participating states with 20 billion database files held by a private Florida company called Seisint Inc.

Launched with $12 billion in federal funds in a response to the Sept. 11 attacks, it has been billed as a speedy way for law enforcement agencies to find records.

Privacy rights advocates are concerned about the inclusion of information on people not accused of crimes, as well as over the scope of the data, which could include marriage and divorce records and even fingerprints.

Georgia law enforcement officials were interested in the project when it was initially proposed and provided state sex offender and prison records for the database.

But last October, Perdue said the state was dropping out of the database. His announcement came after state Attorney General Thurbert Baker ruled the state could not share driver's license records with the database unless state law was changed.

``The state of Georgia will not transfer any additional information to the company responsible for the Matrix database,'' Perdue said in a statement issued Oct. 21 by his press office.

``I have held serious concerns about the privacy issues involved with this project all along, and have decided it is in the best interest of the people of Georgia that our state have no further participation in the Matrix pilot project.''

But records obtained by the AP under a public records request in Florida show that five Georgia Bureau of Investigation agents, including Director Vernon Keenan, attended a Nov. 5 meeting of the Matrix board of directors in Atlanta.

Minutes of the meeting show that Keenan told other participants that Georgia planned to continue sending data to the system, even though that appeared to contradict the governor's earlier announcement.

``Mr. Keenan stated he clarified with the Georgia governor that the state is still participating in the project and is sending the data,'' according to the minutes.

Asked about the apparent contradiction, GBI spokesman John Bankhead said the agency asked Perdue's chief operating officer, Jim Lientz, how to proceed after the governor's Oct. 21 statement.

``We were told to continue as we had in the past but not with the additional data (drivers' licenses),'' he said.

McLagan said that was a ``miscommunication'' between Lientz and the GBI.

``We wanted participation to end immediately,'' McLagan said. ``We have clarified that with the GBI and they are terminating their remaining participation in the program.''

Still in the program are Connecticut, Florida, Michigan, New York, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Utah's governor on Thursday halted that state's participation in the database. Gov. Olene Walker promised to look more closely at the project, which had been set in motion during her predecessor's administration, after the American Civil Liberties Union said the program poses a more powerful threat to privacy than its organizers acknowledge.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: ga; matrix; privacy
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1 posted on 01/31/2004 6:37:39 AM PST by Stew Padasso
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To: Stew Padasso
More erosion of personal freedom in the name of 'law enforcement'
2 posted on 01/31/2004 6:40:37 AM PST by cyborg
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To: Stew Padasso
It amazes me these articles don't get more comments.
3 posted on 01/31/2004 6:43:14 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
you have a point
4 posted on 01/31/2004 6:47:05 AM PST by cyborg
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To: Prodigal Son
They rarely exceed ten posts.
5 posted on 01/31/2004 6:47:49 AM PST by Stew Padasso (Head down over a saddle.)
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To: Stew Padasso
And I don't know why. This is a serious issue.
6 posted on 01/31/2004 6:49:11 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
Because saying this is wrong, makes one a accessory to terrorism. Don't you know after 9-11 the government has the right to tell you what color underpants to put on??
7 posted on 01/31/2004 6:52:04 AM PST by cyborg
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To: Prodigal Son
It leaves me to believe that either people don't care, the topic is boring, or they agree with the measures taken by our elected officials.
8 posted on 01/31/2004 6:53:53 AM PST by Stew Padasso (Head down over a saddle.)
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To: Prodigal Son
Do you honestly think the data base is shut down? This is a treasure for the law enforcement, and government, a back door most likely has already been opened with information continuing to flow.
9 posted on 01/31/2004 6:56:03 AM PST by duk
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To: duk
Do you honestly think the data base is shut down?

Is that rhetorical? I haven't said I believe the system is shut down.

10 posted on 01/31/2004 6:58:59 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Stew Padasso
all your post are belonging to us
11 posted on 01/31/2004 6:59:30 AM PST by teeman8r
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To: Stew Padasso
My vote is apathy.
12 posted on 01/31/2004 6:59:50 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
Just read an article farther down on FR about business's who have massive databases that our "uncle" can access. The government only has to put together a system to reach all these business data bases.

I was not being rhetorical about you, but rather the general public who will be reading this article.
13 posted on 01/31/2004 7:03:38 AM PST by duk
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To: cyborg
Because saying this is wrong, makes one a accessory to terrorism.

You know, I really dislike Ted Rall (cartoonist) but yesterday (or the day before) he had a 'toon I actually liked. It depicted a guy noticing a suspicious bag on the subway. He thought about reporting it but then he realized he would be grilled by the Feds for hours (if not days) and be accused of being a terrorist so he just left it unreported and went on his merry way.

14 posted on 01/31/2004 7:04:13 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: teeman8r
believing that such databases are non-existant is folly in the hearts of american citizens... bureaucrats and alphabetical agencies are accumulating en masse information on every individual who uses a credit card... from financial expenditures to where and when one traverses freely this great nation...

i may wear the dreaded tinfoil hat of conspiratists everywhere, but make no mistake, those who step out of line and are bumped by this government search program will be posted for surveillance by the man...

fortunately, government lacks efficiency and motivation and most toadies would rather spend the time they are supposed to be watching the flock, in a strip club off the interstate...


teeman8r
15 posted on 01/31/2004 7:05:22 AM PST by teeman8r (my tinfoil hat made my hair fallout... i believe there is a conspiracy there somewhere)
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To: Stew Padasso; JohnGalt; 4ConservativeJustices; stainlessbanner; Ff--150; sheltonmac
``We thought it already had (ended),'' said Dan McLagan, the governor's communications director. ``There was a miscommunication.''

No, you just didn't think anyone was paying attention. Standard politician. Say you're going to do something about it, talk it up a bit, and then just go on business as usual hoping no one notices. And sadly this is how this nation of states is run today. We hear a fiery speech from 'our' guy and contrary to all factual evidence contrary to what was said in the speech, we're expected to continue to believe the speech because 'our' guy said it. And any who dare question the facts are ostracized as supposedly never having supported the politician in the first place

Looks like Sonny's camp just keeps on keeping on.

16 posted on 01/31/2004 7:10:00 AM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice.)
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To: Stew Padasso; Southack
``The state of Georgia will not transfer any additional information to the company responsible for the Matrix database,'' Perdue said in a statement issued Oct. 21 by his press office. ``I have held serious concerns about the privacy issues involved with this project all along, and have decided it is in the best interest of the people of Georgia that our state have no further participation in the Matrix pilot project.''

Sonny Perdue is my kind of Republican.

Southack, you've made it clear you don't think privacy is a right. Perhaps it's not. But I believe not abrogating privacy is a responsibility of government.

17 posted on 01/31/2004 7:13:17 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: teeman8r
I have been delaying my ccw application for almost 2 months, because my tin foil cap chafes me every time I think about my "NAME, WEAPON TYPE, ADDRESS, VEHICLE, ECT." being tied to that ccw. It is a red flag that brings all this information and more to the alphebet soup agencies attention.

The completed packet sits on my desk, staring at me, like something out of "1984."
18 posted on 01/31/2004 7:14:01 AM PST by duk
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To: Stew Padasso
``We thought it already had (ended),'' said Dan McLagan, the governor's communications director. ``There was a miscommunication.''

In other words, ``We thought it already had (ended),'' said Dan McLagan, the governor's communications director. ``But the people involved in the data-base operation weren't careful enough to make it look as though it had ended and they got caught. So now, for sure, it'll look as though it's been stopped.''
19 posted on 01/31/2004 7:19:28 AM PST by aruanan
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To: cyborg
Well, we want to be safe don't we? It's only being used in the War on Terror™. Or do you secretly support the terrorists? What are you, a *subversive democrap?

* Warning: The term "subversive democrap" should be reserved for emergency situations only. It is intended for use only as a last resort. Overuse of this powerful tool may lead to diminished effectiveness and possible addiction.
20 posted on 01/31/2004 7:43:23 AM PST by kenth (This is not a tagline. You, sir, are hallucinating.)
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