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2004- the Year of Returning to Space
various FR links | 01-31-04 | The Heavy Equipment Guy

Posted on 01/31/2004 5:09:08 AM PST by backhoe

The War Over Space
newsmax.com ^ | Jan. 23, 2004 | Charles R. Smith
 
 
 
 
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Possible Israeli Moon Mission
Arutz Sheva ^ | 1.29.04 | Arutz Sheva
 
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Japan to change space policy, aims manned mission: report
Asia Pacific News ^ | 1.30.04 | Asia Pacific News
 
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Voyage of The Voyagers: First Quarter-Century
Astrobiology Magazine ^
 
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Fly My Stuff to the Moon: Private Mission Slated for Fall Launch
Space.com ^ | 1/29/04 | Robert Roy Britt
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Mars Exploration Rover Opportunity Roll Out on Mars at 12 AM PST 1-31-2004 (LIVE THREAD)
Jet Propulsion Laboratory ^ | 1-30-04 | NASA JPL
 
 
 
 
 
Opportunity Sits In A Small Crater, Near A Bigger One
NASA - JPL ^ | 01-25-2004 | NASA/JPL
VIKING 1 and 2 Data and Images -- some are BETTER than what we are getting from the rovers...
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/planetary/viking.html
 
 
 
 
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Earth First!
( We'll Strip-Mine the
other Planets Later... )
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


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KEYWORDS: backhoe; goliath; mars; nasa; space
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Mars... a big step for womankind?
Telegraph (UK) ^ | 12 February 2004 | Dr Raj Persaud
41 posted on 02/13/2004 12:23:40 AM PST by backhoe
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More to Mars than Rovers: New Olympus Mons Picture from Mars Express = WOW.
Space Daily ^ | February 13, 2004
42 posted on 02/13/2004 10:18:36 AM PST by backhoe
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NASA Moon Program Moves into Gear
Space.com ^ | February 14, 2004 | Leonard David
43 posted on 02/14/2004 1:05:05 AM PST by backhoe (the balance of common sense is tipping towards nonsense)
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Moon Probe Set For White-Knuckle Descent (Saturn Moon)
BBC ^ | 2-15-2004
44 posted on 02/15/2004 10:17:59 AM PST by backhoe (--30--)
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'Martian Chronicles' author praises U.S. Mars effort (Ray Bradbury)
AP ^ | 2.15.04
45 posted on 02/15/2004 1:34:23 PM PST by backhoe
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Most distant known object in universe discovered
San Diego Union-Tribune ^ | February 15, 2004 | Andrew Bridges
Peering back in time to when the universe was just 750 million years old, a team of astrophysicists announced Sunday they have spied a tiny galaxy that is the most farthest known object.

Abell 2218 acts as a powerful lens, magnifying all the galaxies lying behind its core.
These lensed galaxies appear stretched and even multiply imaged.
The new object appears as two thin red streaks inside the circled area.


46 posted on 02/15/2004 1:51:00 PM PST by backhoe
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Using Titan to Understand Earth and Mars
Space.com ^ | 2.17.04
47 posted on 02/17/2004 3:55:31 PM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the TrackBall into the Sunset...)
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PHI HARMONICS IN FASTER-THAN-LIGHT QUANTUM TUNNELLING!
By Ananda, ATON Institute, Norway. ^ | FR Post 2-20-2004 | Editorial Staff


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A Stroll Through the Lyman-Alpha Forest!
Alternate View Column AV-116 ^ | 08/06/2002 | by John G. Cramer
48 posted on 02/19/2004 3:51:38 PM PST by backhoe (The Lights in the Sky are the Stars--)
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NASA Will Have Space Shuttle on Standby for Rescue Mission When Flights Resume
The Associated Press ^ | Feb 19, 2004 | Marcia Dunn

49 posted on 02/19/2004 4:27:30 PM PST by backhoe (The Lights in the Sky are the Stars--)
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Mars rover uncovers hints of water activity
Newscientist ^ | 20 February 04 | David L Chandler




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Backers: Privatize Moon-Mars Mission Funds
ABC News/Associated Press ^ | Feb. 18, 2004
50 posted on 02/20/2004 12:17:01 PM PST by backhoe (The Lights in the Sky are the Stars--)
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Testimony of Charles M. Chafer given at Senate Science Committee
Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation via SpaceRef ^ | Wednesday, February 18, 2004 | Charles M. Chafer
51 posted on 02/20/2004 12:18:48 PM PST by backhoe (The Lights in the Sky are the Stars--)
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Good News: the Universe May Not Be Dying
Reuters ^ | Fri February 20, 2004 | Maggie Fox
52 posted on 02/20/2004 3:25:41 PM PST by backhoe (--30--)
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Radio Storms on Jupiter
NASA ^ | 02/20/2004 | NASA
Radio Jove

53 posted on 02/21/2004 12:24:36 AM PST by backhoe (The Lights in the Sky are the Stars--)
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Life In The Universe Takes Orders From Space
Science Daily ^ | 2-20-2004 | ASU
54 posted on 02/21/2004 12:43:17 AM PST by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the TrackBall into the Sunset...)
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China - Moon fly-by to soar by 2007 (that's 3 years away)
China Daily ^ | February 27, 2004 | uncredited member of the masses

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Awesome False-Color Mars Rover Photo - El Capitan Outcrop
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040226a.html ^ | 2/26/2004
56 posted on 02/27/2004 4:59:40 PM PST by backhoe (The Lights in the Sky are the Stars--)
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Commercializing the New Space Initiative
The Space Review ^ | Monday, March 1, 2004 | Jeff Foust
57 posted on 03/01/2004 2:03:09 PM PST by backhoe
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I was amazed to see my local TV news anchors discuss, and run a report on, the feasability of the space elevator, just a couple of days ago.

I don't think a space elevator is going to happen any time soon, if ever, for one reason: everyone is focusing on the ability to stretch the "elevator" ribbon via a counterbalance extending beyond the geostationary orbital distance, and the amount of energy needed to lift the payload to the geostationary height -- but, it seems that no one is paying any attention to the amount of energy required -- or, the torsional strengh necessary to withstand -- to accelerate the payload to its horizontal (or "circular" or "orbital") speed.

It's not just a matter of lifting yay many pounds yay many miles straight up. That would only be the case if the Earth wasn't spinning. But, it is.

It will take quite a bit of energy to accelerate the payload "sideways" from a relative standstill (IIRC the rotational speed at the equator is about 1,000MPH) to the tens of thousands of miles an hour required to maintain a geostationary orbit.

Sure, it looks like a geostationary satellite isn't moving -- but it actually is moving, and at a very decent clip.

The reverse is also true when descending from orbit. All that rotational speed will have to go somewhere, and the stuff I've seen proposed, i.e., carbon ribbons, have tremendous strength in the "lengthwise stretch" department, but are very weak in any other direction.

Picture an ice ballet skater spinning, with her arms outstretched, and then pulling her arms inward. Notice how much faster she spins, as the rotational energy from her outstretched arms is translated into increased RPM as they move inward?

Now, imagine that her arms are 40,000 miles long, and each hand weighs a few tons, and tell me how much sideways force that "elevator" ribbon will have to absorb (and brake) as the payload, weighing several tons, traveling at several tens of thousands of miles per hour, descends to sea level -- with all of that sideways momentum having to go "somewhere" (i.e., cargo pressed against one wall, payload "car" pushing against the elevator ribbon).

I just can't see it being practical, and I doubt that the proponents have "done the math" on it.

58 posted on 03/01/2004 9:46:31 PM PST by Don Joe (We've traded the Rule of Law for the Law of Rule.)
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Most Distant Galaxy in Universe Detected
Associated Press ^ | Mon Mar 1, 2004 | JOHN LEICESTER

59 posted on 03/02/2004 2:21:08 AM PST by backhoe
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I just can't see it being practical, and I doubt that the proponents have "done the math" on it.

You're probably right- what I found remarkable was that a local TV station would even run a story about it- they usually fall into the "if it bleeds, it leads" category.

60 posted on 03/02/2004 2:50:40 AM PST by backhoe (Another artifact left over from The Decade of Fraud(s)...)
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