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Bush Budget To Predict FY '04 Deficit Over $500B (Is Big Spender Bush trying to lose the election?)
Quicken.com ^ | January 30, 2004 | Unknown

Posted on 01/30/2004 8:17:30 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded

Bush Budget To Predict FY '04 Deficit Over $500B Thursday, January 29, 2004 04:01 PM ET Printer-friendly version

WASHINGTON [AP]--U.S. President George W. Bush's new budget will project that the just-enacted prescription drug program and Medicare overhaul will cost one- third more than previously estimated and will predict a deficit exceeding $500 billion for this year, congressional aides said Thursday.

Bush's new budget will estimate this year's budget deficit at about $520 billion, the congressional sources said. That would easily surpass the $375 billion shortfall of last year, the highest deficit ever in dollar terms.

Just Monday, the Congressional Budget Office projected this year's red ink would total $477 billion.

The new estimate comes as Bush braces for a difficult election-season fight with Congress over spending - after a budget year that he can hardly expect to top.

Instead of a $400 billion 10-year price tag, Bush's 2005 budget will estimate the Medicare bill's cost at about $540 billion, said aides who spoke on condition of anonymity. Bush will submit on Monday a federal budget for the fiscal year 2005, which starts next Oct. 1.

Bush just signed the Medicare measure into law last month. While it was moving through Congress, Bush, White House officials and congressional Republican leaders had assured doubting conservatives that the bill's costs would stay within the $400 billion estimate.

Some conservatives voted against the legislation anyway, and many of them are already angry that Bush has presided over excessive increases in spending and budget deficits.

"I'm not the least bit surprised," said conservative Rep. John Shadegg, R- Ariz., who voted against the Medicare bill in November and who said he had heard that the cost estimate would rise. "Historically, our estimates of what these programs will cost have been so far off as to be meaningless."

White House budget office spokesman Chad Kolton wouldn't comment on the Medicare figures. But an administration official, speaking on condition of anonymity, acknowledged that the estimate would rise to nearly $540 billion.

"Both numbers provide what you can call a reasonable range of possible future costs for Medicare," the official said. "These are complex estimates, based on hundreds of individual programs, decisions and potential actions over an extended period of time."

CBO, Congress' nonpartisan fiscal analyst, estimated the bill's 10-year cost at $395 billion. But administration officials repeatedly stood by the $400 billion figure, which Bush had included in the budget he proposed last February.

Although Bush sends his 2005 budget to Congress next week, lawmakers only last week completed their spending work for 2004. That process saw Bush win virtually all his major priorities including a tax cut, new Medicare prescription drug coverage, funds to fight a war with Iraq, and overall spending restraint.

"He wanted a carpet that looked like X, and generally speaking he got a carpet that looked like X," said Richard Kogan, who analyzes the budget for the liberal Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.

The Republican-run Congress avoided overt clashes with Bush but didn't roll over completely.

Lawmakers trimmed his defense plans while boosting funds for highways, Amtrak and veterans. They ignored Bush's plan to make tax cuts permanent, scaled back his proposal to stop taxing corporate dividends, derailed his energy bill and added thousands of home-district projects to spending measures.

Even so, the results were a far cry from the "dead on arrival" label applied to the spending blueprints of some of Bush's recent predecessors. Democrats and moderate Republicans often gave that assessment to plans written by the first President Bush and President Ronald Reagan, who were forced to accept both tax and spending increases.

On the other hand, despite the GOP takeover of Congress two years into his tenure, President Bill Clinton won frequent spending concessions from lawmakers wary of battling him. Bush has followed a similar pattern.

"It would be hard to say he's not getting what he wants," Stan Collender, a senior vice president who follows the budget for the accounting firm Fleischman- Hillard.

Bush has yet to cast a veto after three years in office. He often uses the threat of a veto to get his way, issuing 19 as Congress considered the 13 annual spending bills for this year. In the end, lawmakers dropped challenges on issues like administration plans to change overtime pay rules and divert more government work to private contractors.

Major priorities Bush proposed last year included:

- Tax reductions of $1.3 trillion over 10 years. The bill he signed had $330 billion in tax cuts. That number is expected to grow should lawmakers, as anticipated, make some of its temporary reductions permanent. Congress added $20 billion he didn't seek for financially strapped states.

- $400 billion over a decade for revamping Medicare and adding prescription drug coverage. Bush last month signed a bill resembling his proposal.

- $87 billion this year for wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, $500 million less than he got. The final bill gave him $1.7 billion less than the $18.6 billion he wanted to rebuild Iraq and less flexibility than he wanted for controlling the money.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 520billiondeficit; bigspender; bush; fy2005
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He ran as a compassionate conservate that wouldn't spend the social security surplus. I know we had Clinton recession, 9/11, and 2 fairly minor wars compared to WW2.

But the Moon and Mars Trip, the NEA increase, Farm Bill, Eduction Dept increase and all the pork continuously every year in Omnibus bills. BUt not one VETO.

He may have learned the lesson on raising taxes, but he has abnesia on reducing spending.

1 posted on 01/30/2004 8:17:32 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: TheEaglehasLanded
BUt not one VETO.

I wonder if a President has ever made it through a whole term without vetoing a single bill?

2 posted on 01/30/2004 8:26:13 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: Mr. Mojo
John Adams, the 2nd President of the United States is the only President to serve a full 4 year term to not use the Veto Pen.

James Garfield was the last not to use it for his Presidency which lasted 4 months before he was assassinated in 1881 I believe.
3 posted on 01/30/2004 8:28:47 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: TheEaglehasLanded
Apples dont fall far from the trees
4 posted on 01/30/2004 8:29:13 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded
Thanks
5 posted on 01/30/2004 8:30:18 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: TheEaglehasLanded
Keep it up, Georgie Boy, and watch what happens.

You'll be getting a chance to work the counter at the Crawford Gift Shop about 4 years sooner than you think.

6 posted on 01/30/2004 8:31:09 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded
...the Moon and Mars Trip, the NEA increase, Farm Bill, Eduction Dept increase and all the pork continuously every year in Omnibus bills...not to mention that the new Medicare drug program has already been upped in estimated cost from four hundred million to five hundred million before even going into operation - smaller government indeed......
7 posted on 01/30/2004 8:37:26 PM PST by Intolerant in NJ
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To: TheEaglehasLanded
Bush's deficits are about the size of Carter's budgets.
9 posted on 01/30/2004 8:49:10 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Somehow that's not good for Conservates, Bush Presidency being compared with Carter, the worst president of my lifetime economically
10 posted on 01/30/2004 8:57:27 PM PST by TheEaglehasLanded
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To: Hank Rearden
"You'll be getting a chance to work the counter at the Crawford Gift Shop"

And based on his Medicare Bill, someone will ask how much a trinket costs, Bush will say $4, and then when the guy says Okay, he'll put a $6 charge on his credit card.
11 posted on 01/30/2004 9:40:34 PM PST by John Beresford Tipton
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To: TheEaglehasLanded
but he has abnesia on reducing spending.

That sounds series.

12 posted on 01/30/2004 9:43:20 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Hank Rearden
You'll be getting a chance to work the counter at the Crawford Gift Shop about 4 years sooner than you think.

President Kerry would certainly spend much less than President Bush.../sarcasm

13 posted on 01/30/2004 9:44:23 PM PST by Tamzee (W '04..... America may not survive a Democrat at this point in our history....)
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To: TheEaglehasLanded
My God, how many more threads of the exact same subject do we have to see every hour?
14 posted on 01/30/2004 10:05:05 PM PST by COEXERJ145
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To: COEXERJ145
As many as their tantrum requires.
15 posted on 01/30/2004 10:06:05 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: COEXERJ145
Some anti-Bush types are convinced if they keep putting up these threads over and over again that people will eventually believe them -- not going to work as long as there are Bush supporters left on FR to counter them.

They seem to be foregetting that John "Botox" Kerry is to the left of Ted Kennedy in voting and that is pretty hard to do. He is for cutting defense and spending on domestic programs. They complain now, they haven't seen anything yet if Kerry was elected.
16 posted on 01/30/2004 10:37:27 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: Hank Rearden
Georgie Boy? How about Johnnie Botox boy?
17 posted on 01/30/2004 10:46:30 PM PST by onyx (Your secrets are safe with me and all my friends.)
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To: PhiKapMom
Bush treats conservatives like the dems treat Blacks. He assumes we have nowhere else to go.

Well....this conservative is leaving the Bush plantation. I'll not vote for anyone who increases the scope and power of government.

I'll vote constitution party.

Bush pisses on conservatives and tells us he buy us a rain coat.
18 posted on 01/30/2004 10:46:33 PM PST by rebel
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He assumes we have nowhere else to go.

Pretty much the same place you have told him to go to. The same place you told Bush 1 and Dole to go to. The difference is that Bush2 has done it in time to get his second term.

19 posted on 01/30/2004 10:50:13 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: PhiKapMom
Interesting site that could explain a lot of what is happening on FR

http://pub9.bravenet.com/guestbook/724851911/1
20 posted on 01/30/2004 11:17:49 PM PST by Texasforever
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