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WHY INTELLIGENCE FAILED
New York Post ^ | 1/30/04 | RALPH PETERS

Posted on 01/30/2004 12:25:53 AM PST by kattracks

Edited on 05/26/2004 5:19:21 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

January 30, 2004 -- FEW human beings argue with con clusions they want to believe. When the U.S. intelligence community in sisted that Saddam's regime possessed hidden weapons of mass destruction, President Bush and his advisers welcomed the "evidence."

Bush believed correctly that Saddam needed to go. And the supportive analysis provided by U.S. intelligence was seconded by the British. Even the French and German intel organizations believed Saddam possessed weapons of mass destruction.


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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: intelligence; ralphpeters; wmd

1 posted on 01/30/2004 12:25:54 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
I wouldn't be so quick to close the book on WMD just yet. There could be a lot of egged faces with this rush to judgment.
2 posted on 01/30/2004 12:28:21 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
I agree.

It ain't over 'till it's over.

3 posted on 01/30/2004 12:29:58 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
They are going to find huge stockpiles of WMD buried out in the desert somewhere.

All we have to do is find the people that buried them.
4 posted on 01/30/2004 12:35:07 AM PST by clee1 (Where's the beef???)
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To: kattracks
Peters is usually a lot better as a novelist than as a columnist. His thinking is usually about as deep as a bird bath. But he does have a handful of good points in this one:

Hopefully he will get some attention... the first step in fixing something is to recognise that it's busted.

However, a very important point is missing here. And that's this: no matter what we do with the intel community, the possibility of another surprize attack will exist as long as we have enemies with human will and human imagination.

Wesley Clark's claim that he could prevent another 9/11 is... well, it shows he's barking mad. The only way to prevent such attacks is to study the people who wish to do them, identify those people, and then hunt them down in their foreign lairs, and exterminate them like rats.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

5 posted on 01/30/2004 12:45:22 AM PST by Criminal Number 18F
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To: kattracks
"We spend well over $30 billion a year on intelligence, primarily to buy and maintain technological systems."

A billion dollars in shoe leather would have helped immensely.
6 posted on 01/30/2004 1:03:44 AM PST by DeepDish (This space for rent.)
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To: Texasforever
Agree. I remember reading reports before the campaign (not the war - the war is the Global War on Terror)in Iraq began. They said that Iraqi WMDs were being sent to Syria.
This fits with Saddam's ways - in 1991 he sent his air force to Iran, as I recall.

Semper Fi,
7 posted on 01/30/2004 5:20:55 AM PST by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar
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To: kattracks
WHY INTELLIGENCE FAILED

The Torracelli Principle.

8 posted on 01/30/2004 5:28:06 AM PST by Consort
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To: Texasforever
Agree the book is still open on this. But his underlying analysis is still valid. We need to hit human intelligence harder. As for the "group think", boy that's a tough one to overcome.
9 posted on 01/30/2004 9:25:48 AM PST by Valin (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: Criminal Number 18F
# our human capabilities are deficient because they have been neglected (the leaders in the intel community are as much to blame as Congress on this, though. The last DCI who was comfortable conducting operations was Casey, and even he couldn't undo the damage all the dud admirals did).

This wasn't just a bureaucratic failing. Clinton stood by as Hussein rounded them up en mass and slaughtered the organizations that the U.S. HAD built in Iraq - despite Hussein having to violate his cease-fire to do so. ...And the Clinton Administration canned the guys who saw it coming and tried to prosecute them.

10 posted on 01/30/2004 9:44:30 AM PST by lepton
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To: Heuristic Hiker
Excellent RP ping for you.
11 posted on 01/31/2004 12:00:45 AM PST by Utah Girl
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To: clee1
They are going to find huge stockpiles of WMD buried out in the desert somewhere. All we have to do is find the people that buried them.

They may found at the same spot. It should be easy though. The bodies are pushing up cactus, the chemicals turn the cactus neon green .

12 posted on 01/31/2004 12:12:33 AM PST by Go Gordon (A Dean Presidency would be as effective as a one-legged man in a butt kicking contest)
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To: Go Gordon
Iraq is a large country, much of it uninhabited and desolate.

We will eventually catch some of the people that ordered the hiding of the WMD's - they will be made to cough up the info.
13 posted on 01/31/2004 12:33:33 AM PST by clee1 (Where's the beef???)
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