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Spirit Sends First Photo Since Troubles Began
Yahoo ^ | Jan 29 2004 | By Robert Roy Britt

Posted on 01/29/2004 9:04:51 AM PST by Dog

Spirit Sends First Photo Since Troubles Began

By Robert Roy Britt Senior Science Writer, SPACE.com

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NASA (news - web sites)'s troubled rover Spirit has sent a new photograph back from Mars. It is the robot's first significant data transmission since its computer went haywire last week.

The image was taken and sent back Wednesday. It was captured by the rover's front hazard avoidance camera and shows the robotic arm extended to a rock previously named Adirondack. Mission managers did not say whether it was an indicator of Spirit's health.

Spirit's science operations halted just as it crawled to the pointy rock and was about to begin drilling into it. The rover's computer rebooted itself more than 100 times over a two-day period and, at first, sent back beeps but no data. Engineers have since determined that the problem appears to involve too many files overloading the onboard computer memory.

A spectrometer, which would identify minerals in the rock, is still placed on Adirondack, as it had been instructed prior to the computer glitch.

"Engineers are working to restore Spirit to working order so that the rover can resume the scientific exploration of its landing area," a NASA statement accompanying the picture said. No other details have been provided about the rover's condition since a Wednesday morning press briefing.

"Right now we're working to get complete control of the vehicle, and we're still not quite there," Jennifer Trosper, Mission Manager for the Mars Exploration Rover program at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, said earlier Wednesday. "If we're on the right track, we hope to be back doing some science by early next week. If we're not on the right track, it could take longer than that."

Spirit is in the Gusev Crater on Mars. Its twin, Opportunity, is on the other side of the planet and preparing to roll off its landing pad, possibly as early as Sunday.

The combined mission cost is $820 million and is designed to determine whether Mars was once wetter, possibly with the conditions necessary for life.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mars; pictures; spirit
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To: RockyMtnMan
I resp[ectfully disagree. C# is what Java Should have been, but isn't.

Plus Microsoft is the Borg- resistance is futile. As a lifelong contractor I have a good eye on market demand- I am getting 50% calls for .NET and maybe 10% for Java
41 posted on 01/30/2004 2:54:34 PM PST by Mr. K
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To: MrConfettiMan
It's my understanding the problem has to do with the file / memory management code within VxWorks.

From what I'm hearing, the problem is not the OS, which is doing exactly what it's supposed to do.

The problem is the engineers that set it up. Apparently when the flash device was formated, it was formated with the expectation of only holding a certain number of files. When they exceeded that number, the file handler in the OS refused to access any more files. IOW, it operated as designed.

The fix that they are setting up for this weekend is basically a format and reinstall. Once the filesystem is set up properly, the rover shouldn't have this kind of problem again.

A lot of Unix engineers are familiar with this kind of problem. Anyone who has set up a system that grew much faster than expected has probably run into the same issue.

42 posted on 01/30/2004 4:11:31 PM PST by Knitebane
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To: Mr. K
Having worked a several large enterprises and seeing how the entire financial services sector is firmly in IBM's camp you might reconsider your position. JPMorgan paid IBM 5 billion dollars to manage their infrastructure for the next 5 years (and they've made 3 similair deals across the indutry).
43 posted on 01/30/2004 4:12:15 PM PST by RockyMtnMan
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To: Mr. K
I resp[ectfully disagree. C# is what Java Should have been, but isn't.

Well, that depends. If you are looking at if from Microsoft's point of view:

A. Java runs on platforms other than Windows.

B. Java isn't owned and controlled by Microsoft.

C. Java doesn't let Microsoft force upgrades.

D. Java doesn't let Microsoft charge license fees.

E. Java can't be dropped at Microsoft's whim.

Looking at it from that perspective, then yes, C# fixes all of those problems.

44 posted on 01/30/2004 4:31:58 PM PST by Knitebane
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To: Redcloak
I'm worried more about the next one....


45 posted on 01/30/2004 4:40:54 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Darksheare
Seems to be sitting right where it was last before it barfed it's brains out.

You have a way with words...

46 posted on 01/31/2004 4:46:42 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: American in Israel
No I don't.
*chuckle*
But, that's basically what Spirit did.
Unless it's more comparable to disassociative schizophrenia.
47 posted on 01/31/2004 9:10:22 AM PST by Darksheare (Responsible for killing more threads than anyone else. Considered armed & weird. Use caution.)
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To: Darksheare
Spirit regains it's senses, sends back image. Seems to be sitting right where it was last before it barfed it's brains out.

With a little effort, you could get a pretty fair Haiku out of that:

Spirit finds its sense,

Sends a picture home

From the place it lost its mind.

48 posted on 01/31/2004 1:27:17 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: JustAmy
See #48 above. I suspect some of your poetry page regulars could do considerably better, suggesting a possible topic for your page: Mars rover/exploration tributes and poetic commentary

If you go with it and get any takers, kindly provide a link here as well, Earthling.

-archy-/-

49 posted on 01/31/2004 3:41:10 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: archy
LOL

That is great. I may just put something on tomorrow's thread for a "let's see where we can go with this".

Thank you, that is a wonderful idea.
50 posted on 01/31/2004 4:27:27 PM PST by JustAmy (God Bless our Troops, God Bless President Bush and God Bless America)
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To: Knitebane
From what I'm hearing, the problem is not the OS, which is doing exactly what it's supposed to do.

Doesn't all software do what it's supposed to do (ie. programmed to do), as long as the hardware is working properly? :)

Thanks for the additional information. I'm an embedded flight software engineer at NASA Goddard. In my early years there (roughly ten years ago), I helped develop Command & Data Handling flight software on 386/VRTX missions but later on (about five years ago) I worked on RAD6000/VxWorks missions. I'm currently working on component level (microcontroller) hardware that will still fly in space but the software will not require an RTOS. The information I've received concerning Spirit's troubles was of a superficial nature and I appreciate your filling in the details.

51 posted on 02/01/2004 8:07:33 AM PST by MrConfettiMan
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To: archy
LOL!
I'm not too good at poetry.
My sis is better at it than I.
(She's MUCH better at haiku..)
But, you're right about that.
It would make an interesting haiku.
*scratches head*
52 posted on 02/01/2004 11:23:04 AM PST by Darksheare (The voices in YOUR head are talking to ME!)
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To: Dog
... the problem appears to involve too many files overloading the onboard computer memory ... which caused the "the blue screen of death" event to occur.
53 posted on 02/01/2004 11:48:48 AM PST by JoeGar
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To: JustAmy
That is great. I may just put something on tomorrow's thread for a "let's see where we can go with this". Thank you, that is a wonderful idea.

Save it for Monday, gaining a wider audience, and also offering a choice of reflecting on the renewed Martian efforts, or the results of Sunday's Superbowl contest. The dichotomy ought to offer interesting results.

54 posted on 02/01/2004 4:29:23 PM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: r9etb
"I was going to adorn the thread with a picture of a car on blocks, and even did the Google Image Search. I'm stunned."

That reminds me, there is an eatery here called Beavers East. Great pizza. Think I'll order some tomorrow.
55 posted on 02/01/2004 4:36:33 PM PST by reagan_fanatic (I'd rather be driving my '57 Chevy)
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