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New Explorer hole could be devastating
Infoworld ^ | 01/28/04 | Kieren McCarthy

Posted on 01/28/2004 1:10:12 PM PST by Salo

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To: Snowy
I haven't ever used 'palm desktop' but I've got at least 4 programs on my linux computer dedicated to managing handhelds. Evolution, made by Ximian.com is an email package that functions much like outlook, and includes connectors for handhelds.
161 posted on 01/30/2004 6:30:40 AM PST by zeugma (The Great Experiment is over.)
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To: Bush2000
And, therefore, it's no wonder that people aren't moving to Apple on the desktop.

The sheeple stick with what they know, even if it isn't what's best. The best line I've heard lately went like "A company stupid enough to go with Windows in the first place deserves the expense of getting hit with all these worms."

Survival of the fittest.

162 posted on 01/30/2004 6:43:53 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Golden Eagle
"I support ALL US software companies in the face of foreign freeware. And I'm proud to say this last week I've personally converted someone who was running Red Hat Linux to reload that system with Sun Solaris Unix for Intel, a truly American product although it is currently having to be given away for free with the onslaught of Linux upon America's shores. Yes some of you will say free is better, but it's not, not for America's tech economy and not for us working in the industry."

That's funny, I find Solaris to be quite shitty without loading up gcc, gnu binutils, and a couple other goodies. Ya gotta admit, sun userland is caca. For the record, I have a dual processor sparc at home, and a fair sized pile of them at work. Did you notice BTW that you've been able to get Solaris for free, for years, for personal use?
163 posted on 01/30/2004 6:59:51 AM PST by adam_az (Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting weftists.)
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To: Salo; All
Oh Good. MS has a fix. To sum it up: type the urls in your browsers - no clicking links if you want to be safe.
164 posted on 01/30/2004 7:03:50 AM PST by Salo (You have the right to free speech - as long as you are not dumb enough to actually try it.)
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To: Bush2000; adam_az
Please see 164 - your fix is in.
165 posted on 01/30/2004 7:05:57 AM PST by Salo (You have the right to free speech - as long as you are not dumb enough to actually try it.)
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To: Bush2000
Speaking of people using Macs, it turns out Macs are the computer of preference for the hard-core computer security guys at the FBI:
many of the computer security folks back at FBI HQ use Macs running OS X, since those machines can do just about anything: run software for Mac, Unix, or Windows, using either a GUI or the command line. And they're secure out of the box. In the field, however, they don't have as much money to spend, so they have to stretch their dollars by buying WinTel-based hardware.
It's sad the FBI has to get by on old PC notebooks not even sold anymore. But when they do have the money, a mid-line iBook costs the same as the mid-line value ThinkPad (the brand the agent was using), and has a bigger hard drive.
166 posted on 01/30/2004 9:24:13 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Salo
Bump!
167 posted on 01/30/2004 11:52:30 AM PST by Perseverando
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To: Colonel_Flagg
No...go right ahead.
168 posted on 01/30/2004 11:58:10 AM PST by FLAMING DEATH (Why do I carry a .45? Because they don't make a .46!)
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To: FLAMING DEATH
http://texturizer.net/firebird/extensions/

BUMP

169 posted on 01/30/2004 12:28:17 PM PST by LTCJ (Gridlock '05 - the Lesser of Three Evils.)
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To: zeugma
Good work in telling it like it is. Rest assured that Golden Eagle will totally ignore your points and continue his run-of-the-mill Redmond-shill yammering.

One thing that's of profound interest that GE continually avoids is that Microsoft once claimed that releasing its source code for review would "compromise National Security." (Their rep even said this under oath.)

Then what did Microsoft do? Microsoft gave the Red Chinese access to Windows source code!.

Isn't that innerestin'? Here we have Microsoft claiming that public release of their internals would jeopardize our nation's security, then they glibly fork it over to the Communists.

Small wonder that cretins like GE avoid the issue. Addressing it would force them to admit that Microsoft is comprised of either liars or traitors.

170 posted on 01/30/2004 12:53:28 PM PST by Prime Choice (I'm pro-choice. I just think the "choice" should be made *before* having sex.)
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To: Salo
Oh Good. MS has a fix. To sum it up: type the urls in your browsers - no clicking links if you want to be safe.

ROTFLMBO! Priceless. Simply priceless!

171 posted on 01/30/2004 12:55:02 PM PST by Prime Choice (I'm pro-choice. I just think the "choice" should be made *before* having sex.)
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To: Prime Choice
Yup. GE ignores just about anything of substance and keeps hammering his provided talking points.

Isn't that innerestin'? Here we have Microsoft claiming that public release of their internals would jeopardize our nation's security, then they glibly fork it over to the Communists.

Small wonder that cretins like GE avoid the issue. Addressing it would force them to admit that Microsoft is comprised of either liars or traitors.

Personally, I think the truth of the matter is that they are both.

172 posted on 01/30/2004 1:01:48 PM PST by zeugma (The Great Experiment is over.)
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To: zeugma
You seem to be awefully concerned with communists writing software, yet show a blithe disregard for their efforts at undermining our Republic.

I have no idea what you are talking about. I just don't have much of significance to add to those discussions, and there aren't people on them oppenly supporting communism or it's toolset like there are on these Linux threads.

Yet you come here as some troll astroturfer for microsoft bemoaning the fact that open source is destroying Staroffice

Huh? Why would a Microsoft "troll astroturfer" (whatever that is, LOL) care if Sun got destroyed? You are so mixed up it makes absolutely no sense.

Note, that there are still folks who make candles, harnesses, and probably even buggy whips.

I don't recall those industries facing unfair foreign competition, do you?

173 posted on 01/30/2004 3:09:50 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: zeugma
Can you believe someone would actually recommend CDE?

Sure, there are plenty of people that buy American first. The fact you scoff at it is sickening.

174 posted on 01/30/2004 3:11:04 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: adam_az
Did you notice BTW that you've been able to get Solaris for free, for years, for personal use?

Sure did, but Solaris typically (and formerly completely) requires a Sparc processor, which you can only get from Sun. It also is closed source code, and is completely controlled by an American company, not some likely communist from Finland. What was your point again?

175 posted on 01/30/2004 3:14:06 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: antiRepublicrat
"A company stupid enough to go with Windows in the first place deserves the expense of getting hit with all these worms."

"deserves"? That is clearly a post made in support of hackers over American businesses that do not conform to your way of reasoning. And don't blame me, you said it not I.

176 posted on 01/30/2004 3:17:28 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Prime Choice
Rest assured that Golden Eagle will totally ignore your points

Looks like you were wrong, like usual. I exposed his points completely, if you can call them points.

One thing that's of profound interest that GE continually avoids is that Microsoft once claimed that releasing its source code for review would "compromise National Security."

Wrong again. I never avoid this topic, and freely admit it dangers national security to expose Windows code to the Chinese government, always have. But without the affect of Linux, they would have never exposed it in the first place. And a peek doesn't equal giving them the complete rights to the code inlcuding modification, distribution, and resale like Linux does. Red Hat = Red Flag. Look it up sometime.

Small wonder that cretins like GE avoid the issue.

What issue am I avoiding? Do you live in a box or something?

177 posted on 01/30/2004 3:22:58 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: zeugma
Yup. GE ignores just about anything of substance

Since when? Your pathetic little points, which recently evolved into you chasing me around listing my posting history like a little dog chasing a Greyhound bus down the street? LOL. You got something any better, bring it too.

178 posted on 01/30/2004 3:25:36 PM PST by Golden Eagle
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To: Golden Eagle
But without the affect of Linux, they would have never exposed it in the first place.

Just out of curiosity, how much does Redmond pay you to spin everything Microsoft does wrong into being the fault of Linux? I'm asking 'cause I find it incredibly difficult to believe that you spend this much time and effort parroting Redmond's talking points out of pure egalitarianism.

And FYI: CDE is crap, Solaris has been given away free for some time, and Red Hat is based in the U.S. Just figured you should be reminded of this since you have avoided those facts in the previous exchanges with others in this thread.

179 posted on 01/30/2004 4:13:54 PM PST by Prime Choice (I'm pro-choice. I just think the "choice" should be made *before* having sex.)
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To: zeugma
Small wonder that cretins like GE avoid the issue. Addressing it would force them to admit that Microsoft is comprised of either liars or traitors.

Personally, I think the truth of the matter is that they are both.

Agreed. Funny, isn't it, how Brass Buzzard tries to spin their treason into being Linux's fault? Talk about a laugh-riot...

180 posted on 01/30/2004 4:15:55 PM PST by Prime Choice (I'm pro-choice. I just think the "choice" should be made *before* having sex.)
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