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Tancredo: Illegals plan will not pass Congress
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Posted on 01/27/2004 11:44:41 PM PST by JustPiper
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To: realpatriot71
Perhaps, Bush's immigration plan is merely a ploy for votes, knowing that it was never going to pass congress? I think that is exactly right. I think a similar ploy was used with the alleged renewal of the Assault Weapons Ban.
To: JustPiper
Time to get out the checkbook.
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posted on
01/28/2004 5:42:12 AM PST
by
Bikers4Bush
(Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
To: realpatriot71
It's not about winning, it's about voting for the right people.
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posted on
01/28/2004 5:43:04 AM PST
by
Bikers4Bush
(Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
To: Zack Nguyen
re: ploy for votes.
This might not be so bad, but think of what a blow this is to Border Agents trying to enforce a law, when the Commander in Chief makes such enforcement to be pointless and unsupported.
Not to mention the encouragement that Mexicans in Mexico are hearing from the top to cross the border illegally.
If John Edwards wants a boost to his campaign, he ought to hint that he would enforce the law. He might be surprised what that'd do for him with blacks in South Carolina.
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posted on
01/28/2004 5:46:49 AM PST
by
Mamzelle
To: realpatriot71
As much as I hate the stand on amnesty the President has taken, I do think he is an intelligent man. I respect him, I admire him and I thank him for being strong enough to stand firm on the War.
I know he has to appease people for votes on things I may disagree with. I know I can not have 100% of what I want.
But I think his immigration discussion was such a bad move, and I do fear it will cost him the Presidency.
I hope he can fix it up soon.
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posted on
01/28/2004 5:49:06 AM PST
by
Diva Betsy Ross
(Every heart beats true for the red ,white and blue!)
To: Sandmansleeper
Good for you. I have written several letters to the RNC, Bush, etc. One of things that makes the maddest is that they completely ignore anything that is said about illegal immmigration. They treat us like we don't exist. For that reason, I would support a Tancredo write in to increase the pressure on Team Bush. Unfortunately, they will only respond to the fear of an election loss. They don't seem to care about saving America. Massive illegal immigration is a greater threat to the existance of the USA than islamic terrorism. Elsewhere, on FR there is already documentation that illegal immigration is increasing because of Bush's Guest Worker plan, which is an amnesty by another name.
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posted on
01/28/2004 5:54:08 AM PST
by
Truth29
To: JustPiper
I signed then read where my e-mail address is not protected so cleared the form...is there anyway this could be corrected? I would very much like to sign but the spam that will result in doing so makes me hesitate.
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posted on
01/28/2004 6:09:50 AM PST
by
yoe
(Join STOP Hillary PAC.com 2111 Wilson Blvd #700, Arlington, VA 22201)
To: JustPiper
Tancredo to Bush: "Never darken the door to this House again."
I'm glad Tancredo is givin this latest presidential stinkypoo the flushing it so richly deserves. It would have been better if he had never laid the rotton egg to begin with.
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posted on
01/28/2004 6:18:48 AM PST
by
Jim Cane
(Vote Tancredo in '04)
To: ETERNAL WARMING
Kids should become plumbers, electricians, and carpenters today (can't outsource those jobs). Schools push everyone to go to college. Why? Kids will be in debt up to their ears for the rest of their lives with no jobs the way this is going.
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posted on
01/28/2004 6:26:04 AM PST
by
ladylib
To: JustPiper
I don't think anyone on this thread read this article.
"If something comes out of Congress, it will be worse."
The conventional wisdom at FR is if the Bush plan is shot down, everything will be great. Wait til the dems get through with this. It will be in December.
To: kenth
I just disagree with the idea that he is doing it knowing it won't pass. I believe he really wants to have this plan in effect. It's another 40 billion for AIDS in Africa type plan. He is detached enough from the week to week struggle of most Americans (as are most of those in D.C.) that he doesn't seem to think twice about proposing a plan that benefits him personally/spiritually, but would be a burden to those of us who have to pay for it. Maybe you're right. I just don't understand why Bush would want to upset so much of his base, and I figure pandering to voters makes sense. He is a politicias after all.
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posted on
01/28/2004 7:25:36 AM PST
by
realpatriot71
(It's time to build a freakin' wall!)
To: Bikers4Bush
It's not about winning, it's about voting for the right people. I understand the principle, but realistically, when was the last time the "right person" got voted into office? A conscience vote in the last few elections has lead to closer and closer margins with the Dems (not that I'm suggesting any person vote any particular way). Pragmatic-lesser-of-two-evils voting has been the only game in town for most voters since I've been old enough to follow politics.
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posted on
01/28/2004 7:30:21 AM PST
by
realpatriot71
(It's time to build a freakin' wall!)
To: Diva Betsy Ross
But I think his immigration discussion was such a bad move, and I do fear it will cost him the Presidency. I dunno if it is enough to lose him the WH, but it was a terrible move.
Seems to me he is employing a strategery that worked for him in Texas on a nationwide scale. Politically cynical, simplistic & naive. He'd better wise up quick.
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posted on
01/28/2004 7:57:35 AM PST
by
skeeter
To: realpatriot71
If we never vote for the right people we are assured 100% that they will never win.
I'm tired of the lesser of two evils approach.
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posted on
01/28/2004 7:58:33 AM PST
by
Bikers4Bush
(Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
To: Bikers4Bush
I'm tired of the lesser of two evils approach. So am I, but as long as it looks like we have candidates moving toward some sort of semi-socialist state, then we've got to vote for the guy who taking the longest to get us there. It sucks, but it's reality.
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posted on
01/28/2004 8:17:14 AM PST
by
realpatriot71
(It's time to build a freakin' wall!)
To: realpatriot71
One of the few sensible comments made with respect to this issue as of late.
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posted on
01/28/2004 8:21:26 AM PST
by
Bikers4Bush
(Constitution party here I come. Write in Tancredo in 04'!)
To: JustPiper
Tom Tancredo is a right minded, very tough hombre. Let's make him POTUS.
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posted on
01/28/2004 8:36:08 AM PST
by
MannMade
(This country was not founded by sissies.)
To: Bikers4Bush
One of the few sensible comments made with respect to this issue as of late. Thank you
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posted on
01/28/2004 8:54:43 AM PST
by
realpatriot71
(It's time to build a freakin' wall!)
To: JustPiper
Tancredo said lawmakers wonder: "Are there enough people who would say this is their number one issue; or would the economy, jobs, education and all the rest still take precedence?" Don't enough people get the connection between the flood of illegals and its impact on economy, jobs, education, the rising cost of medical care, taxes.....
To: JustPiper
He said he supports the president on most issues besides immigration and believes he would have little effect on the president's chances, the paper reported. ?
That is true for 2004. But keep in mind that Bush will not back down and will give citizenship to the illegals one way or another. That's when we turn to Tancredo big time. State's Rights are important now. Each state needs to take care of its own citizens and not the illegals. If Tancredo could push this, I think it could help stave off Bush's insane policies on illegals.
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posted on
01/28/2004 9:09:14 AM PST
by
swampfox98
(Beyond 2004)
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