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Dude, Where's My Candidate?
National Review Online ^ | Jan 27, 2004 | Andrew Cline

Posted on 01/27/2004 6:45:24 AM PST by Akira

Stepping into the Dennis Kucinich rally at the University of New Hampshire on Sunday night, the first thing to hit you is the stench of male body odor. Not the "man, it's hot on the dance floor, I think I'll take my sweater off" kind of odor, but the "I use organic deodorant" kind.

The second thing that hits you is the aroma of marijuana. Not the "Dude, want a toke?" variety, but the "No, officer, we just went outside for some fresh air" kind.

Signs hang from the ceiling along each wall. "Vote Kucinich 4 Healthcare." Tables full of bumper stickers, T-shirts, buttons, hats, party masks, glitter, hemp products, and campaign literature line the walls (to free up floor space for dancing). "Billionaires for Bush: Small Government, Big Wars" reads one sticker. "Free Hip Hop" reads another. The 1986 David Bowie film Labyrinth plays on the wall above the stage.

Strolling around the room, one finds a mix of deadheads, granolas, stoners, peaceniks, and the occasional UNH student who stopped by to check out the music before quickly leaving. I stopped to ask three students why they came, the music or the candidate? "The music!" said the first one. "The candidate!" said another. The third one slowly stepped back into the darkness to avoid the question.

The building belonged to the taxpayers of New Hampshire, but the party belonged to the out-of-state Kucinich campaign workers. It was easier to find someone from California than from Durham, the little New Hampshire town that is home to UNH, one of the top party schools in the United States.

Dylan Huber, a 31-year-old from Berkeley, drove the Kucinich "Democreation" bus from California to New Hampshire. Dylan, who usually doesn't vote Democrat, got turned on to Kucinich by a friend.

"I vote Green, or I write somebody in," he said. "I'm pretty much a nonbeliever." Asked what that meant, he said, "What's the word? Disenfranchised. That's me."

What is so appealing about Kucinich to make one drive a bus cross-country for him?

"It's pretty contiguous, his views. Everything he talks about comes out of the idea of sustainability. After hearing Noam Chomsky talk, it's kind of difficult to follow, even though he's talking down to a layman like me."

But Kucinich is more clear, Huber said. He wants to make the world better by ending corruption and selfishness in politics. "What Dennis wants is to remove those kinds of manipulations and actions."

It took six days to drive the bus to New Hampshire. That included one stop in Des Moines, to campaign for Kucinich, and one in Kucinich's hometown of Cleveland.

"I don't even remember what we did in Cleveland," Huber explains.

At Thursday night's Democratic-candidate debate, Kucinich supporters from all over the country were outside holding signs. I couldn't find one who was from New Hampshire.

"We came from Colorado," said Dara Blumenhein of Boulder. Her companion, Mel Rensier of Boulder, said "Our goal is to raise the issue of youth politics and music."

Danielle Feris of New York City stood in the snow holding a Kucinich sign for hours.

"I love Dennis because he shows me how we can have a world where I can be free to be who I am, I can feel safe, and everyone in the country can be safe and happy. Um, yeah."

Emerson Running Sky, also of New York City, said he hitchhiked to New Hampshire just to hold signs for Kucinich. "He will help create a world of peace instead of bombing people into submission," he said.

"Peace and love, that's what he represents for me."

Asked how he would get back to New York, Running Sky thought for a moment.

"Probably hitching. Or catching a ride with all of these wonderful people."

In case you think these people sound a little, well, nuts, consider that not far off were the Lyndon LaRouche supporters. One of them handed me a booklet with a picture of Dick Cheney on the cover. "You know who that is on the cover?" asked her friend, poking her head out of the back window of a rented black GMC Yukon. "It's Lucifer." She wasn't kidding.

That's why, when I approached some Kucinich supporters in the parking lot, unwittingly brandishing the LaRouche booklet in my right hand, they picked up their pace and tried to walk away. After convincing them I was a reporter, they confided, " The LaRouche people are driving us crazy! They're really aggressive to us."

Campaign activists don't just try to convert the locals. They try to convert each other. And the poor peaceful Kucinich people have been hounded relentlessly by the LaRouche supporters, who don't like to take "no, thanks, you fruitcake" for an answer.

Back at the UNH rally for Kucinich, which was dubbed a "party," not a rally, the scene was more laid back. No one pressed his views on anyone else. Everything was "cool, man." Derek Garcia, a 22-year-old volunteer from Albuquerque, said he was first attracted to Kucinich by "his courageous stance against the 1972 ABM treaty, which begins to allow the weaponization of space."

In addition, he said he liked Kucinich's honesty and agrees with most of his positions.

"I agree with 99 percent of his positions, except flag burning." (Kucinich is against it.) "He's the only one who voted against the Patriot Act, which pretty much shreds the Bill of Rights."

Michael Bedar, 25, of the Tree of Life Rejuvenation Center somewhere in California, also rode in the bus to New Hampshire. He said that Kucinich first appealed to him because of "civil liberties" concerns. But then he got interested in "peace, sustainable energy." For Bedar, his discovery of Kucinich was serendipitous. "I found my spiritual side right before I got into those issues," he said.

Bedar was taking tickets at the door. The price of entry to the event, which featured guitarist Tim Reynolds, whose name you've probably never heard before, was a $4 donation to the Kucinich campaign. A scruffy student in a big, black coat walked up to Bedar and held out a dollar.

"I've only got a dollar."

"That's cool. Just help clean up after, or something," Bedar said, taking the dollar and letting the student pass.

Beatrix Hallowell, a 32-year-old German national who lives in New Hampshire with her American husband and three children, was passionate about Kucinich.

"Of course he talks about peace! That includes everything."

She explained how it is important that the United States focus on helping the world's poor, such as keeping people in the Himalayas who have calluses on their feet from walking barefoot all the time.

She discovered Kucinich after hearing him interviewed on New Hampshire Public Radio a few weeks ago. She said she agrees with Kucinich on almost everything.

"He believes we should pay the Iraqis for the destruction. I don't believe that. If we stay over there, this country will have no money!"

Reminded that she had just said America needs to help the world's poor and that some of the Iraq money will go to build schools and buy medical supplies, she said, "Yeah!" and rolled her eyes. "I think most of the money goes into the military."

But how will the Iraqi people get back on their feet? "Just like every other country. Do you look at North Korea and China and ask how they do it?"

Hallowell said the United States should stop spending money on defending the country from terrorists.

"I'm not afraid of terrorists! Spending money on homeland security, what a joke! I don't need that. I have three children, I'm struggling hard."

One of the few long-time New Hampshire residents at the event was Dave Anderson, a 24-year-old humanities graduate from UNH. He was attracted to Kucinich because "I feel the idea that you can defeat terrorism through war is absurd." Also, "I enjoy his ideas on medical insurance and education. They should be human rights. Everyone should have equal standing to begin."

Another New Hampshire resident, 27-year-old Eric Wentworth, said he'd "been flip-flopping between candidates for a while, trying to decide who's going to win and who's not going to win. And I realized it really doesn't matter. This guy stands for what I believe in. I have to vote my conscience."

He also really liked the event. "It's pretty hoppin!"

Brent Adams, 37, of Santa Cruz, California, said the Kucinich supporters are "trying to be the change — this is Gandhi, by the way — that we would like to see in the world."

Adams said he's "livin' in a tent, don't have to pay no rent." He wore a multicolored Viking hat with braids hanging from each side. He was standing by the entrance to the event when a man who called himself "Vermin" approached. Vermin wore a ZZ-Top-looking beard, Mad-Max-style shoulder pads, and a long rubber boot for a hat. He said he was running for president on the "time-travel research platform." If elected president, he would fund time-travel research so we could "go back and kill Hitler." As he was standing near Adams, wearing the Viking hat and supporting the candidate who wants to create a Department of Peace so that all the world will learn to live in harmony, a man wearing a Kucinich shirt pointed to "Vermin" handing out literature, and said, "Who would take anything from that idiot?"

Kucinich himself arrived at the party after 10:00 and roused the crowd with phrases like, "Are you ready for free college tuition?!" and "Are you ready for social and economic justice in a nation that doesn't have any?!"

Speaking of his appeal to young people, the crowd was almost entirely under 30, Kucinich said, "I hold in my heart that rebellious spirit of youth that demands change."

He told the crowd, "You're not content with the dark visions that people spread across the world."

Urging them to get out and vote on primary day, he led a raucus chorus of, "Tuesday! Our Day!" before breaking into a funky little dance then taking over the drumsticks from a supporter who was pounding on a plastic oil barrel with foam mallets. (It really happened. I have it on video.)

After Kucinich left, the party calmed and people began to file out into the subzero New Hampshire air. Walking by the "Democreation" bus, which was parked in front of the event, one student summarized her thoughts about the evening to a friend.

"It's an awesome idea," She said. "A world where everyone lives in peace and harmony, where there's no war. It's a f***ing awesome idea! But you know what? It's never gonna happen. A billion dollars in my pocket is an awesome idea, too. But you know what? It's never gonna happen."


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; bonghits; eplubissmokempot; kucinich; lefties; litemydoobie; nh
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To: erasmus605
"There is a disconnect somewhere."

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41 posted on 01/27/2004 11:49:50 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: Taliesan
I guess we can hope that half of these people are too stoned to remember to vote on election days.

I think you overstate how close we are to anything resembling NK. France, perhaps...
42 posted on 01/27/2004 12:37:11 PM PST by Akira (The people have spoken.....the bastards.)
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To: sauropod
The vegan is speaking on Hannity right now...
43 posted on 01/27/2004 12:37:26 PM PST by Lil'freeper (By all that we hold dear on this good Earth I bid you stand, men of the West!)
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To: axel f; alwaysconservative; sweetliberty
I haven't had time to take the poll, but I got the feeling that it takes Bush + all the current Dem candidates. If that is true, then just about anybody on this forum will come out 100% for Bush.

But throw in any other true conservative candidate in there and Bush would suffer. Throw out the tax cuts and the partial birth abortion ban (and I don't mean to trivialize either of those) and Bush's domestic policy has not been anything any true conservative should be proud of.

When you sign an education bill that makes Ted Kennedy happy, you are not a conservative. Alan Keyes gave a great speech on this at CPAC last weekend.
44 posted on 01/27/2004 12:46:35 PM PST by Akira (The people have spoken.....the bastards.)
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To: Akira
"OK... One more time. This is your brain. This is your brain on Dennis Kucinich. Any questions?"
45 posted on 01/27/2004 12:50:27 PM PST by Redcloak (Cat: The other white meat.)
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To: Akira
From NH:


46 posted on 01/27/2004 12:59:40 PM PST by Akira (The people have spoken.....the bastards.)
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To: Akira
I like Alan Keyes and think he'd make a good president. That said, how did he explain why the people who are the most upset about the NCLB Act are in Ted Kennedy's camp? By far the most complaining I hear about it comes from the left.
47 posted on 01/27/2004 1:32:22 PM PST by axel f
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To: axel f
The gist of Alan's speech was to distinguish b/w Republicans and conservatives. He pointed out that O'Reilly now uses the term "conservative" when discussing Lieberman and Edwards, and this doesn't help the movement. He also bashed RINOs like Arnold in CA.

He didn't specifically talk about NCLB. As near as I can tell, Dems are now complaining about NCLB b/c:
1) Bush is behind it (they'd bash Bush if he cured cancer) and the election is approaching
2) It doesn't spend ENOUGH money
3) It mandates testing, which scares them into thinking that kids and teachers will actually be expected to perform well

Back in 2000, with both Dem and Rep primaries going on, there was a similar poll to match you to a candidate. It matched me to Keyes.
48 posted on 01/27/2004 1:42:18 PM PST by Akira (The people have spoken.....the bastards.)
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To: axel f
Ah yes, I remember Keyes from the last election. He was the only candidate with a grip on the Constitutional requirements of the job.

Imagine an Alan Keyes/Condi Rice ticket...
49 posted on 01/27/2004 2:20:03 PM PST by null and void (It's the JOBS, Dubya)
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To: TheSarce
PING
50 posted on 01/27/2004 8:23:55 PM PST by The Bat Lady (Lighting the fires of Liberty, one heart at a time!)
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To: George W. Bush; Travis McGee; xzins
You know... The 26th Amendment guaranteed my Right to Vote at the tender age of 18 -- but I never owned my own Landed Property (okay, I pay the Bank, but my name is on the Deed) until I was 25 years old.

However, after reading an Article like this, I'm even more firmly convinced that the Founders were Right. Restrict the Voting Franchise to Property-Owners!! Them's which have a physical investment in their Motherland, tend to evaluate their Vote a bit more seriously.

William F. Buckley (jr.) is famously credited as saying, "A Conservative is one who stands athwart the Progress of History, yelling 'STOP!!'"

If that be the case, then a Libertarian (or, more exactly in my case, a "man's-home-is-his-castle" Propertarian) is one who stands athwart the Progress of History, yelling "Go Back! For the love of all that's decent, GO BACK!!"

Back to the 18th Century, baby. Common Sense is like a fine wine... it doesn't sour easily; it improves with age.

We can endlessly debate the merits of the 19th Amendment (sorry, Ladies; but Men do tend to vote for Liberty, and Women do tend to vote for Socialism -- a century of voting habits can't be easily overlooked)... but, Male or Female, if we'd retained the Founder's Practice of Restricting the Voting Franchise to Property-Owners -- methinks we'd have saved ourselves a world of hurt.

Admittedly, to steal a line from the Kucinich Voters:

But a Propertarian can dream. To steal a line from Rush Limbaugh:

As always, just one curmudgeon's opinion.

Best, OP

51 posted on 01/27/2004 9:08:00 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
It's only in the last 20 years that non-property owners even get elected to puny positions around here. At the old people will still grumble queitly about it.

Tended to keep taxes down.
52 posted on 01/27/2004 9:18:15 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
As always, just one curmudgeon's opinion.

BTW, you're not quite old enough to apply for membership with the Curmudgeons. But I might be able to get you in on the quiet...
53 posted on 01/27/2004 9:20:55 PM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Akira
I guess we can hope that half of these people are too stoned to remember to vote on election days.

Not me! I hope they goad the fool into going third party. Looks like as long as Howie's taking his meds, he won't get pissed off enough to start a third party, so we need Kook to drag off the far fringe. Sure, it won't be as much as Nader siphoned off, but if it doesn't go to Kerry in the fall, that's all right with me!

54 posted on 01/27/2004 9:23:32 PM PST by hunter112 ("Mr. Kerry, there's a 'Mr. Satan' here to see you? Something about picking up a soul?")
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To: Riley
Dude, Where's My Candidate?

He's the one that isn't a lawyer, sitting in traffic, doing the nine to five, while having a large part of his income confiscated by the government.

When he runs for office, we'll know it.

55 posted on 01/27/2004 9:25:03 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Riley
http://www.presidentmatch.com/Guide.jsp2
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56 posted on 01/27/2004 9:49:02 PM PST by The UnVeiled Lady (RATs are asking the wrong ?, should be asking "who would be the best President?")
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To: George W. Bush; Travis McGee; xzins; Jerry_M
It's only in the last 20 years that non-property owners even get elected to puny positions around here. At the old people will still grumble queitly about it. Tended to keep taxes down.

Per'zactly.

Meaning no offense to the Current Administration, whom I freely admit is a better President than any Democrat -- laying aside the matter that the GOP Congress actually opposes Big-Government Socialism when a Democrat is in Power (it's best not to speak of these things, don't wanna rock the boat)...

...But I remain utterly befuddled and uncertain as to what exactly a $200-Billion Kennedy Education Bill and $200-Billion Iraq War and a $50-Billion "Reichland Security" Office actually accomplishes which can't be better accomplished by Midwestern Homeschooling and family Shotgun practice (and a few billion -- even one billion -- for extra Border Security), other than double the Deficit up to figures which would make Thomas Jefferson blush and beg for mercy.

Now, maybe I'm always gonna be just a naive, stupid, corn-on-the-cob Iowa Farmboy at heart -- despite all my East Coast financial training and Je Ne Sais Quois (That's a French colloquialism favored by Yankee Liberals. Loosely translated, it means "I haven't a thing worth saying, but I can say it in French!")...

...But down on the farm, where we still figure Mathematics according to Grain Elevators rather than "self-esteem" -- a Family of Five takes a $500 Billion-dollar Deficit divided by 250 million tax-paying Americans, and that means that Bush Junior is soaking each Man, each Wife, and each of Three Kids with an extra $2,000 dollars each in Debt that we're gonna hafta pay back. ON TOP of the existing National Debt, which would get us to Mars and back without any new photo-ops!!

$2,000 dollars per each!! Every Man, Woman, Child and Infant!! Is anyone paying attention? And that's just one year of Bush Junior's astronomical $500-billion dollar deficits.

Get a grip, people. Compare Bush's fiscal policies to your family's credit-card Bills. An additional $2,000 dollars of Debt per family member, per each, in ONE YEAR!! And more to come...

Bush Junior is trying to buy off the Liberals and fight a World War at the same time.
There is no way to sugar-coat this.... This is Fiscal Insanity.

Well, you know what? I grew up in Iowa, in a white-bread Midwestern nuclear Family of Two Parents and Four Kids. Stack it up the way you stack up bales of hay, and an extra $500 Billion dollar Deficit divided across America by six-person Families works out to an extra $12,000 dollars of debt, per Family... per year. EEE-GADS!! Some of us just finished paying off the new Tractor! I think I'm gonna be sick...

And so I have to say, with that great Calvinist General "Stonewall" Jackson, I do not fear the Terrorists -- "I Know that the Sovereign Lord has already measured out for me all the Days of My Life, and so I feel as safe in Battle as I do lying in my Bed"... but I do fear my Government.

Terrorists can Kill your Life (in one chance in a hundred-thousand; in the Midwest, you're more in danger from lightning storms); but only the Government can Rape your Children's Future.

In fact, it has become their Raison D'etre. (This is another French colloquialism favored by Yankee Liberals. Loosely translated, it means "We're from the Government, so Lie Back and Try to Enjoy It.)

Best, OP

57 posted on 01/27/2004 11:20:51 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: George W. Bush
BTW, you're not quite old enough to apply for membership with the Curmudgeons. But I might be able to get you in on the quiet...

My Youth may be against me, GWB (remind me sometime to scan in a few pictures of my "long-hair" days, for laughs and reminiscences)...

...But considering I pay the highest property taxes in Florida to the Enviro-Fascists who run the show down here in the Keys, I think I can "Curmudgeon" with the best of them. (grin)

best, OP

58 posted on 01/27/2004 11:36:44 PM PST by OrthodoxPresbyterian
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
There have traditionally been two reasons acceptable for deficit spending: one is war and the other is recession/depression.

George Bush is dealing with both AND the eye-opening first strike was against the financial institutions and the airlines which FURTHER PUSHED the economy to the edge.

If he were a Democrat and had brought this economy back from those strikes with such elan and in such a short period of time he would be being hailed as the 2nd coming of FDR. Under cover of a smoke screen GW has applied BOTH traditional methods of stimulating an economy: tax cuts and deficit spending. The scarey part is that it was GW who pushed the tax cuts, but he didn't even need to push the deficit spending.....the Congress gave it to him due to their own greed and general all-around porkiness. What's scarey was that they simply followed their natural tendencies and GW signed it.
59 posted on 01/27/2004 11:39:51 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!!)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Far too many have the attitude of c'est la vie.

Everyone needs to read your #57, even if they do end up sick.

60 posted on 01/28/2004 5:48:58 AM PST by Jerry_M (I can only say that I am a poor sinner, trusting in Christ alone for salvation. -- Gen. Robt E. Lee)
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