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To: milkncookies
I'm sorry, I was looking for a logical response. Please, do tell why, if Al Q is Russia's proxy, Russia would not give them the bomb?

Furthermore, this is the real reason for the manuevers: Putin has pledged to rebuild the country's military might and restore pride to the demoralized service. When he ran for his first term in 2000, he flew as a second pilot in a fighter jet and later donned naval officer's garb on a visit to a nuclear submarine -- images that played well with many voters who are nostalgic for Soviet global power and military prestige. "This exercise will make a great show, with Putin receiving reports from military commanders," Safranchuk said.

There are cold, hard facts that you are failing to grasp, here. First, Russia can not afford to pay its soldiers, let alone take over the US. Second, Russia is dealing with terrorism on its own turf, and the muslims are a real threat to them at this time...they don't have the time to deal with nuking the US and dealing with that aftermath. Third, you still have not given me a motive...and saying that "they have always wanted that" does not count. You see, why would they shut off their ATM machine? Fourth, Russia is sitting on a huge oil reserve, so oil is not the issue. Fifth, if Russia really did want to take over the US, would they tell us weeks in advance to prepare?

6,255 posted on 02/04/2004 1:18:51 PM PST by ContemptofCourt
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To: ContemptofCourt
if Russia really did want to take over the US, would they tell us weeks in advance to prepare?

I will answer this one logically at least.
It is because it gives them an excuse to prepare without making us suspicious. If they did all of this and stayed out of touch, we'd be on a hair trigger. [It's to keep our guard down..."it has to be a test..why would they warn us?"] We indeed, will NOT be prepared, since it is only a "test." It's just a chess game. The checkmate attack is disguised as something else. Do you play chess? If so, you'll understand.

6,271 posted on 02/04/2004 1:47:31 PM PST by Indie (Independence Day. Only this time it won't be aliens.)
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To: ContemptofCourt
ROFL

I am beginning to really like you.
6,284 posted on 02/04/2004 2:15:41 PM PST by Nemo1USA (Endeavor to Enterprise I had the ambition to not only go farther than man had gone before but-)
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To: ContemptofCourt
No need to apologize. I was only attempting to respond to you with the same level of logic in which your questions were posed.

As to your facts, I am forced to assume these were statements made by Mr. Putin directly to you as there is no source cited yet you declare them as "cold, hard facts."

I never stated that Russia would take over the U.S. That's a strawman argument.

Please cite "evidence" that muslims are a threat to the Russians at this time. Please include any threats you are aware of by Muslim groups to bring down Russia as they have the U.S.

You state they (Russia) do not have the "time" to deal withh nuking the U.S. and dealing with the aftermath" yet you do not point to "evidence" or "fact" supporting this. What in the heck is keeping them so busy?

You say "You see, why would they shut off their ATM machine?" Their ATM machine is running dry, and China has replaced much of what the U.S. provided in earlier years. Please, allow me to share with you this little "fact": Leonid Ivashov of Russia’s Geopolitical Problems Academy (You probably are hearing his name for the first time, but please try to remember it) three days after September 11, 2002 said "The present state of Russia satisfies U.S. interests,” explained Ivashov three days after the Sept. 11 attacks. “What will be tomorrow is unclear.” “Thus, the U.S. is now at a transition point. She has come to the climax of her military-power adventures for grabbing power over the planet. I think this peak will be crossed in one and a half to two years, after which the USA will retreat from its positions as a result of economic problems.” They saw the ATM running dry well before today.

Yes they (Russia) are sitting on the third largest oil reserve in the world. May I present to you another little "fact"? Domestic oil production in the U.S. peaked in 1970. This is well known and can be found through a simple search on the net. Guess where the second largest reserve is? Venezuela. Guess where the largest reserve is? SA. Is it beginning to come in loud and clear yet?

You say" Fifth, if Russia really did want to take over the US, would they tell us weeks in advance to prepare?" I must not have gotten that memo. when did they tell us to start preparing? Are you referring to the largest nuclear exercise conducted by Russia in over 20 years, the one in which they will actually be launching satellites, the same one in which they will test "their missile defense system"? While I have not taken the position that this exercise is an excuse for launching an attack on the U.S., what better way to deploy, carry out logistics and position themselves than under the guise of an "exercise"?

COC, you don't have to be a weatherman to own a winter coat.
6,288 posted on 02/04/2004 2:32:43 PM PST by milkncookies (When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not your friend.)
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To: ContemptofCourt
Re Post No. 6255: Do you know what happens if you make too much sense around here?
6,329 posted on 02/04/2004 5:53:56 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: ContemptofCourt
"Russia would not give them the bomb?"

ROTFL...

Give? Give??? rotfl...

Nothing is FREE not even to hard line commies.

According to Yossef Bodansky (Bin Laden: The Man Who Declared War on America) AQ purchased its nukes via the Chechen (ie: Russians) for $30 million in cash and &70 million in Afghan opium.

You should read this book, it is most enlightening.
6,414 posted on 02/05/2004 6:01:43 AM PST by Sean Osborne Lomax (http://www.HomelandSecurityUS.com)
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To: ContemptofCourt
Being you admit to the USSR's financial hardship CC, then what about the WMD's t hey have proliferated or sold blackmarket? And the intent of China, Iran and NK to use them?
6,507 posted on 02/05/2004 11:19:21 AM PST by JustPiper (D A M N I T O L Take 2 and the rest of the world can go to hell for up to 8 full hours)
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