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To: liz44040
Liz, I know what you're thinking. And it can be confusing as there are many complex dynamics going on with the terrorists, Russians, Chinese and our own government. Sean could be wrong. In fact there may be, and probably is, within the terrorist world those who want to see Russia go down as much as they want to see the U.S. go down. But if in fact the AQ leadership has been compromised, and are acting on behalf of and with the assistance of the Russians, there is a very strong liklihood that the lower ranks of the terrorist organizations aren't even aware of it.

I remain convinced, however, that where Communism is concerned, nothing is as it seems. So I cannot personally take for granted what Russia, and their possible proxies, say or do.
6,157 posted on 02/04/2004 9:27:52 AM PST by milkncookies (When the pin is pulled, Mr. Grenade is not your friend.)
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To: milkncookies
" But if in fact the AQ leadership has been compromised, and are acting on behalf of and with the assistance of the Russians, there is a very strong liklihood that the lower ranks of the terrorist organizations aren't even aware of it."

I don't think the AQ leadership realizes AQ is a proxy...that they are playing into the old Soviet agenda but they are and that's even better for the Russians hand in this game. Now if we are smart we will pop the arab eyeballs about how they are being used and will be disposed of once the game is won...if AQ wins at all, AQ will actually lose everything. There is no way the Russians will allow them to have anything at that point and would round them up into gulags while claiming they are coming to our rescue. End game.
6,167 posted on 02/04/2004 9:55:44 AM PST by Domestic Church (AMDG...)
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To: milkncookies
RE: Russian connection

We know today that Russia failed for a lot of reasons and one was corruption and inefficiency. Look at the Muslim terrorism that goes on in Moscow - the theater incident and bungled special ops 'rescue' points out some of the super capabilities of the Muslim Russians. And, there are a lot of Muslims in both Bulgaria and Russia. Also the Russian police are too corrupt to not take a bribe and overlook - or not see - certain things.

There's also the former Yugoslavia connection with all the "blue eyed" Muslim's there. Everyone who knows anything about politics, Yugoslavia, and Tito knew that the only thing keeping all these different cultures & religions together was Tito - they were all more afraid of him and his thugs than they were their neighbors. Russia, IMO, also knew that Yugoslavia would implode after Tito's death; it was just a matter of when. When in did "implode" it was basically a free for all for the Muslims. Now it is (again IMO) a base for more terrorists to plan and plot against America with Russian backing.

Some folks say (not on this thread) why would QA or the Muslims work with Russia? After all Russia fought in Afghanistan before we did. America has not invaded and occupied Muslim territory. (Yes we fought in Iraq and Afghanistan but that was after we were attacked). Meanwhile Chinese and Russian troops stand guard over the Islamic people of Central Asia. Why the disconnect here? We (the American masses) listen to what is in our press and TV and it influences our thinking. The Russians and the Muslim countries have their press and media only theirs is much more censored and slanted (brainwashing again). And, for some people, in their minds, we've invaded Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Egypt. Maybe not militarily - but culturally. And these twisted minds (the Muslim's) can't accept that. So it's jihad all the way, with Russian backing. Russia has hated us for an entire century. They want to get back at us, at our success, at our abundance, in any way they can.

Sorry this is so long. Just my 2 cent for the day.

6,293 posted on 02/04/2004 2:39:10 PM PST by Oorang ( "If you see a bomb technician running, try to keep up with him." U.S.A.F. Ammo Troop)
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To: milkncookies
When we employed OBL was it not also against Russian interests?
6,448 posted on 02/05/2004 9:44:32 AM PST by JustPiper (D A M N I T O L Take 2 and the rest of the world can go to hell for up to 8 full hours)
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