Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles (thread 2) Daily Terror Threat

DEBKA ^ | 11/03/03

[Mossad1967]

Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles

Link to Thread #1

[Hegemony Cricket]

J: You are so right! I signed up a few weeks ago for FoxNews alerts to my cell phone. A few days later, I got one about a Black Hawk that crashed in Iraq (fairly newsworthy, I thought). The only other one I've gotten was this past Sunday night informing me that the Patriots had won the Super Bowl - LOL! I thought, good grief, if you wanted to know that, you already knew that - otherwise, you couldn't care less!

[the gillman@blacklagoon.com]

Our government has more commies than red china.

That's the simple answer.

[Domestic Church]

LOL, I've been off of coffee since I had an allergic reaction and sometimes (too often;) I ask questions without thinking of the ramifications. I hope these can be disquised like a direct TV dish...heck they could be moved eaily enough then to keep the AQRussians guessing.

[Letitring]

Bless your heart, of course I understand your concern.

Hasn't this been a real education? Be sure and not miss any of Granny's links and posts. There is a lifetime of knowledge in every one of them.

[TexKat]

Pakistani Nuclear Scientist Takes the Rap for Leaks

By Mike Collett-White

ISLAMABAD (Reuters) - Top Pakistani scientist and national hero Abdul Qadeer Khan made a dramatic personal apology Wednesday for leaking atomic secrets, the latest twist in a proliferation scandal stretching from Libya to North Korea.

In a somber address on state television, Khan, revered at home as the father of Pakistan's nuclear bomb, absolved the government and fellow scientists of any blame in an apparent bid by all concerned to draw a line under the damaging affair.

Commentators said his confession smacked of a cover-up, possibly part of a wider deal to spare the powerful military unwanted scrutiny in any trial and allow President Pervez Musharraf to sidestep pressure from Islamists and nationalists.

The United States, which has urged Pakistan to stop illegal proliferation to what it considers "rogue" states, has publicly backed Musharraf, who is a key ally in its "war on terror."

"My dear brothers and sisters, I have chosen to appear before you to offer my deepest regrets and unqualified apologies," Khan said on state-run Pakistan Television.

"There was never ever any kind of authorization for these activities by the government. I take full responsibility for my actions and seek your pardon," the silver-haired 69-year-old added, speaking in English.

Western diplomats and many Pakistanis believe Khan could not have sold nuclear secrets and sent technology for enriching uranium abroad without the knowledge of top military officials.

A key part of the investigation focused on Khan's vast personal fortune, which local press reports say he amassed through selling secrets.

An open trial of Khan could lead to embarrassing evidence implicating the army, which Musharraf heads, and make a national martyr of the scientist. Analysts say Musharraf may have agreed to pardon Khan in return for his apology.

The National Command Authority, which oversees Pakistan's nuclear arsenal and is headed by Musharraf, said Wednesday it had deferred Khan's "mercy petition" to the cabinet which is due to meet Thursday. In Washington the White House said a trial was a matter for Pakistan, but a spokesman added:

"We appreciate their efforts to address what is a serious concern, which is proliferation of weapons of mass destruction."

SCANDAL MAY NOT BE OVER

The appearance by Khan, at the center of an international storm over Pakistan's role in nuclear proliferation during the 1980s and 1990s, was greeted with skepticism.

Farhatullah Babar, spokesman for exiled former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, said: "One doesn't know if it is a confession under duress, a confession being extorted from him or a confession that he is voluntarily making."

"There is no doubt that it is a cover-up," said Shahid-ur-Rehman, a Pakistani journalist and nuclear expert.

He said Khan's statement may not end the scandal.

"Has there been any violation of international law and will the international community accept the appeal of clemency, if the Pakistani government grants it?"

Khan sought to clear his fellow scientists, who he said acted under his instructions. Four other scientists have been questioned in the probe along with two brigadiers responsible for security at the nuclear facility where he worked.

A senior military official told Pakistani journalists on Sunday that Khan had made a detailed statement confessing to supplying designs, hardware and materials used to make enriched uranium for atomic bombs to Iran, Libya and North Korea.

Khan has been reported in foreign media as saying he acted on the indirect instructions of two former army chiefs, Generals Aslam Beg and Jehangir Karamat. Beg has denied the charge.

A friend of Khan was also quoted by the Washington Post as saying the scientist told investigators Musharraf knew about the transfer of nuclear know-how to North Korea, an allegation the military called absurd.

Musharraf has already made many enemies in Pakistan for supporting the U.S.-led "war on terror" and trying to make peace with India. The general narrowly survived two assassination attempts late last year blamed on disgruntled Islamic militants.

The Islamic opposition has pounced on the government's treatment of Khan, saying he is a scapegoat hounded by the authorities because of pressure from the United States.

"I don't think people like A.Q.Khan should be tried. He is a national hero. He has developed the (nuclear) program," said Qazi Hussain Ahmed, head of the Islamic coalition which has threatened to call a national strike over the issue.

Pakistan originally denied its nuclear secrets and technology had been leaked, either officially or by individuals.

But it launched an investigation in November after the U.N.'s International Atomic Energy Agency provided evidence pointing to Pakistani involvement in Iran's nuclear program. Similar links have been found with Libya.

[Indie]

It just hit me. The Al Queda threat about being helped by the "ones with blue eyes." We've been thinking American traitors.

Wrong. It IS going to be Russians. [blue eyes!] It is as clear as day. The whole thing about them "collapsing" has been a gambit; a chess game. We took the bait.

Now that Klinton has disabled SOSUS, they could have subs 1 mi off the beach and we'd never know it.

I'd say this exercise is more than an exercise. But it won't work as long as Bush has the nads to assure the MAD doctrine in fulfilled if it happens. If they THINK we will capitulate, it's all over.

The EMP from one or two high altitude nuke detonations will fry everything in the country. Instant stone age without any destruction. Great time to ask for surrender eh?

[Domestic Church]

" But if in fact the AQ leadership has been compromised, and are acting on behalf of and with the assistance of the Russians, there is a very strong liklihood that the lower ranks of the terrorist organizations aren't even aware of it."

I don't think the AQ leadership realizes AQ is a proxy...that they are playing into the old Soviet agenda but they are and that's even better for the Russians hand in this game. Now if we are smart we will pop the arab eyeballs about how they are being used and will be disposed of once the game is won...if AQ wins at all, AQ will actually lose everything. There is no way the Russians will allow them to have anything at that point and would round them up into gulags while claiming they are coming to our rescue. End game.

[Sean Osborne Lomax]

According to our sources OBL is under wraps. I think his capture was the result of real-time intelligence developed by US military in Iraq.

Even before this it was my independent assessment that al-Zawahiri was calling the shots for AQ. In every image of the two al-Zawahiri is always shown on the right or the dominant. OBL was the figurehead, the to-be al-Mahdi. Now that option has been removed.

CIA? The George tenet-led CIA? ROTFL! It was the US military that nabbed Saddam, and it was the US military that nabbed Osama. The US Mil is probably the single entity which is not been cored into at the Highest levels by communist moles. That's one of the reasons it is so effective. Think about it and then tell me the names of the alphabet agencies where most of the big name traitors and spies have been outed in recent memory. (Hint: US Army, Navy, Marine Corps, Air Force and Coast Guard are not among them) ;)

[SCR1]

Well if OBL has been detained and won't have the opportunity to 'Martyr' himself, then what does that do to the AQ in general. Will they be cast aside, I believe it'll be 1000 years for the lunar/solar events to occur again. If the 'soviets' are in vovled they are obviously very patient, but not THAT patient. Do they elect a new Mahdi? Who do they have to fill the shoes?

[Sean Osborne Lomax]

"So I'm going ask you if you wouldn't mind giving me your assessment of the Russian maneuvers coming up this month, the report that the number of subs in or near the Gulf of Mexico (2 Russian and1 Chinese)..."

It is my opinion that the US is prepared or preparing for any eventuality. In short, our hackles are up. I believe preparations are now in place to deal with a worst case scenario.


This Russian exercise is, in my opinion, no exercise. I could be wrong, but this looks too much like an operational deployment. Exercises can be run on simulators and in limited geographical areas. This Russian-Chinese one is GLOBAL in scope and that has lots of red flags flying for me (pun intended).

[knak]

Don't ask, we're having a rough day here homeschooling. The kids brain is not functioning today. We're on break now though, maybe when we start up again he'll be better.

[milkncookies]

DC, that too is a very real possibility.

[SCR1]

The obvious questions then is, are we weakened (militarily) enough as a nation that the Russians believe they could win a limited nuclear exchange? What would their definition of Victory be in that regards. Would it even involve a 'red dawn' invasion or do they just kick us in the nuts with a few multi-megaton nukes, and absorb our few hits (Russia is a vast country).

[Sean Osborne Lomax]

Exactly. The end of the Cold War was a classic rope-a-dope, roll over and play possum. The commies are engaged full force in one of the greatest deceptions ever.

Nothing has changed. It's just "New Lies For Old".

[Nemo1USA]

Hello,

In post 6090 I believe there is a list, now according to your link (below) the # 29 on the list seems to have a legitimate upset.

I have to say, I have all military children. I think the USA has the best of the best. I also do not believe that when our "founding fathers" wrote the Constitution with the Right of Free Speech they foresaw the INTERNET. I think all the rights in the Constitution are fundamentally and inherently good.BUT

I do not think that things that now appear on the INTERNET such as many of the zip files this own thread has displayed should be covered under Free Speech. Free Speech is a right, and displayed well under non violent assembly achieves a lot of good. BUT when it is ABUSED(as in grannys' link)to cover the "how to make this or that" and obvious violent zip files and other things I think the buck stops there.

Terrorism is Free Speech
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1071093/posts


btw JustPiper you changed you tag yesterday are you now Voting Bush in the next election.

Bush is my choice.

In by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)

and Calpernia you changed your tag to, Heros are Heros,
and the United States of America has many, of that I am gratefull.

[Domestic Church]

About the EMP..the visionary in Betania did say the clock was going back a couple of centuries...I'm still hoping she means in the southern hemisphere.


Bush has brass nads and the best team around him. And most importantly, he's staying in prayer. I just wish I knew which rock to crawl under with my kids...and how to convince my spouse of the necessity of crawling under a rock out on freeper mountain.

[tmp02]

All this may be true, but with what money are they going to support this deception...the country is semi-broke...

[Mossad1967]

Monday, Feb. 2, 2004. Page 1

Military Planning Nuclear Exercises

By Vladimir Isachenkov
The Associated Press Russia's nuclear forces reportedly are preparing their largest maneuvers in two decades, an exercise involving the test-firing of missiles and flights by dozens of bombers in a massive simulation of an all-out nuclear war.

President Vladimir Putin is expected to personally oversee the maneuvers, which are apparently aimed at demonstrating the revival of the nation's military might and come ahead of elections in March.

Kommersant said the exercise was set for mid-February and would closely resemble a 1982 Soviet exercise dubbed the "seven-hour nuclear war" that put the West on edge.

Official comments on the upcoming exercise have been sketchy. The chief of the Strategic Missile Forces, Colonel General Nikolai Solovtsov, was quoted by the Interfax-Military News Agency as saying the planned maneuvers would involve several launches of intercontinental ballistic missiles in various regions, but he would not give further details.

A Defense Ministry spokesman refused to comment Friday on the reports. The military typically says little about imminent exercises.

In Washington, the U.S. State Department said it has seen reports that Russia has plans to conduct the exercises in February. The department also said Russia is obliged to notify the United States 24 hours before a missile test and has done so in the past.

Kommersant said the maneuvers would involve Tu-160 strategic bombers test-firing cruise missiles over the northern Atlantic. Analysts describe such an exercise as an imitation of a nuclear attack on the United States. Other groups of bombers will fly over Russia's Arctic regions and test-fire missiles at a southern range near the Caspian Sea, the newspaper said. As part of the exercise, the military is planning to conduct several launches of intercontinental ballistic missiles, including one from a nuclear submarine in the Barents Sea, the Kommersant report said. The military also plans to launch military satellites from the Baikonur cosmodrome in Kazakhstan and the Plesetsk launch pad in northern Russia -- a simulation of the replacement of satellites lost in action, Kommersant said.

Russia's system warning of an enemy missile attack and a missile defense system protecting Moscow will also be involved in the exercise, it added.

Pavel Felgenhauer, an independent military analyst, said the military has regularly held nuclear exercises that were timed to coincide with the annual test-firing of aging Soviet-built missiles.

"It has been a routine affair, but it can be expanded if they want a show," he said.

Ivan Safranchuk, head of the Moscow office of the Center for Defense Information, a Washington-based think tank, said the maneuvers would further strengthen Putin's popularity ahead of the March 14 presidential election, which he is expected to win easily.

Putin has pledged to rebuild the country's military might and restore pride to the demoralized service. When he ran for his first term in 2000, he flew as a second pilot in a fighter jet and later donned naval officer's garb on a visit to a nuclear submarine -- images that played well with many voters who are nostalgic for Soviet global power and military prestige.

"This exercise will make a great show, with Putin receiving reports from military commanders," Safranchuk said.

Kommersant said Moscow had notified Washington about the exercise, describing it as part of efforts to fend off terror threats even though it imitates the Cold War scenario of an all-out war.

"The exercise follows the old scenario, and casting it as anti-terror is absurd," Safranchuk said.

Putin's support for the United States following the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks bolstered relations with Washington and helped broker a new U.S.-Russian nuclear arms reduction deal and a Russia-NATO partnership agreement in 2002.

But U.S.-Russian relations soured over Moscow's criticism of the war in Iraq , U.S. concerns about authoritarian trends in the Kremlin's domestic policy and Russia's perceived attempts to assert its authority over ex-Soviet neighbors.

[angcat]

I just spent some time on spirtoftruth's site. I know he/she was kicked off of this site. She/he seems to think the same way about Russia.

[Indie]

DC
We know God hears prayer and can delay/change events. But after 45 million murdered [yeah I know some will call me a kook] by abortion, I'm really pretty sure America is not viewed to favorably by Him right now. And we've had more than enough time to change.
A friend's grandfather is Russian. He has always said, "never trust a Russian." And as a chess player, I think the gambit [the so-called "collapse"] we accepted is becoming all too obvious. A ruse to capture our Queen and move in for the checkmate. Except in this game, resigning can not be an option...and we have to be sure they know that, no matter what the cost.