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Bush's corporate gravy train to Mars
Green Left Weekly ^ | 1.28.04 | Green Left Weekly

Posted on 01/26/2004 1:53:41 AM PST by ambrose

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1 posted on 01/26/2004 1:53:41 AM PST by ambrose
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The strange thing is people think that whatever money is spent is a waste. But everytime money is spent to gain knowledge, we seem to increase our standard of living. My only regret is that I am to old to go to mars or the moon.
2 posted on 01/26/2004 2:23:47 AM PST by teancumspirit (knowledge is the key to a better life than our grandparents had, press on!)
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The strange thing is people think that whatever money is spent is a waste. But everytime money is spent to gain knowledge, we seem to increase our standard of living.

If it increases our standard of living then it shouldn't be too hard to persuade the American people to pay for it, instead of sending the bill to our grandchildren. Mine are far enough in debt already.

3 posted on 01/26/2004 3:58:56 AM PST by steve50 ("There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner.")
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4 posted on 01/26/2004 6:16:31 AM PST by Phil V.
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To: ambrose
HA!
5 posted on 01/26/2004 6:18:20 AM PST by Cold Heat ("It is easier for an ass to succeed in that trade than any other." [Samuel Clemens, on lawyers])
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Where did the title come from? The article clearly states that the budget proposals are tiny in of themselves, and even tinier compared to the overall U.S. budget.
6 posted on 01/26/2004 6:38:28 AM PST by Shryke
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To: ambrose
It's all about oil.
7 posted on 01/26/2004 6:42:56 AM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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It's all about oil.

Of course, and Cheney's Halliburton! LOL!

8 posted on 01/26/2004 6:53:14 AM PST by nana4bush
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To: ambrose
Let me sum this up
Money spent on people actually working and producing tangible products = bad

Money given away to leftist slackers = good

'bout cover it?
9 posted on 01/26/2004 7:16:23 AM PST by The_Victor
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LOL! I think that covers about 95% of these "let's spend money on something else" articles.
10 posted on 01/26/2004 7:40:03 AM PST by Brett66
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Don't you find it amazing the number of folks here who would cheer if our space program died.
11 posted on 01/26/2004 7:40:35 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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Don't you find it amazing the number of folks here who would cheer if our space program died.

It baffes me and depresses the hell out of me. I had thought that the hallmark of conservatism was rational and logical thinking not knee-jerk reactionism - especially with the counterarguements of 'I don't believe it so it isn't true no matter how much proof you have.'

12 posted on 01/26/2004 8:18:53 AM PST by Ophiucus
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To: Ophiucus
Well said! Thanks.
13 posted on 01/26/2004 8:29:54 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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Don't you find it amazing the number of folks here who would cheer if our space program died.

Most of them are trolls.

14 posted on 01/26/2004 8:32:29 AM PST by Smile-n-Win (Compassion for your enemies is a betrayal of your friends.)
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However, Congress balked when the price tag - US$400 billion - was revealed.

The Democratic Congress who spent $6000 billion on their failed "War on Poverty".

15 posted on 01/26/2004 8:45:55 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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It is also small beer compared to the more than $350 billion a year that is shelled out to the big banks in interest payments on the US government's accumulated debt of $4 trillion - largely built up as a result of government borrowing to finance past Pentagon budgets.

It's good to see the far left on record complaining about federal deficits. Of course they get things wrong. A lot of the interest payments go to individuals and foreign governments. And the deficits are due to waste, inefficiency, and vote buying, not any particular program.

16 posted on 01/26/2004 9:08:01 AM PST by Moonman62
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What is the problem these people have with the corporate institutions of America?
17 posted on 01/26/2004 9:33:03 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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look at the Democratic base, very few people in the traditional private sector corporate space. the Dems think everyone can be on public assistance, a government employee, a postal worker, work in education, health care, or in the legal profession. so they "hate" everyone else.

that said, there are alot of abuses with these type of contracts, NASA needs to be reformed before anything like this is undertaken. it doesn't advance technology to hire 1000s of project managers, you need some real engineering, research and development.
18 posted on 01/26/2004 9:38:50 AM PST by oceanview
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there are alot of abuses with these type of contracts

Yeah, I know. Mainly the waste of talent by those who climb the corporate ladder. The contracts themselves are fairly clean as a rule until it comes time for change orders.

19 posted on 01/26/2004 9:52:30 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the Law of the Excluded Middle)
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To: Ophiucus
I had thought that the hallmark of conservatism was rational and logical thinking not knee-jerk reactionism

The space program was sold with vision of large numbers of people in space and with a lot of visible progress. That didn't happen, so the new paradigm in people's heads is a flash in the pan, flags and footprints effort that immediately goes away when the goal is met in the most cursory fashion.

Plus these people are sick of looking at their tax bill and unable to go after the substance of their bill (entitlements) they focus on symbols (space exploration.)

20 posted on 01/26/2004 9:59:49 AM PST by hopespringseternal
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