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Spirit Relays Self-Examination Data Back to Earth [still hasn't sent last photos back]

Posted on 01/24/2004 12:44:39 PM PST by ambrose

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1 posted on 01/24/2004 12:44:39 PM PST by ambrose
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Still locked within Spirit's memory is science data, including its "last picture show" -- images taken by the robot from its position near a science target -- the football-sized rock that scientists have nicknamed "Adirondack".


2 posted on 01/24/2004 12:46:22 PM PST by ambrose
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Some of this does sound promising. Hopefully they won't overload Opportunity too.

Sounds like it's more software related than hardware now. I really hope so, then it might be fixable.

I'm still surprised it's only 128kb speed. Can't they get a good megabit going? :)
3 posted on 01/24/2004 12:49:27 PM PST by Monty22
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Spirit does not have a huge track record of testing, a source said, for fear of damaging the robot and not meeting an unforgiving launch window.

They could have run the software tests on the prototype while the rovers were en route.

4 posted on 01/24/2004 12:53:44 PM PST by Physicist (Sophie Rhiannon Sterner, born 1/19/2004: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1061267/posts)
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To: Phil V.; RadioAstronomer
ping
6 posted on 01/24/2004 12:59:43 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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Prior to its troubles on Mars, Spirit was being put through its paces -- doing things that were not tested with as much vigor here at JPL before being launched.

Spirit does not have a huge track record of testing, a source said, for fear of damaging the robot and not meeting an unforgiving launch window.

What the hell is going on at NASA? This is exactly the same problem they had with the first Hubble mirror - not enough testing. Then they did it again with that Mars probe a few years back that was lost because one of the programmers used English measurements instead of metric ones. A problem that, again, could have been discovered with adequate testing. And now this? Doh!

7 posted on 01/24/2004 1:00:19 PM PST by The Radical Capitalist
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LOL!

Ya mean it wasn't Martin the Martian!?!

8 posted on 01/24/2004 1:00:46 PM PST by GulfWar1Vet (Red Rover, Red Rover...what's yer 10-20?? Over...)
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soooo....where whas this software written..........?????

Outsourced to India?

9 posted on 01/24/2004 1:02:24 PM PST by plain talk
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Despite repeated "go to bed" orders from controllers here at JPL, the Spirit rover refuses to listen to parental command. It did not go to sleep even after ground controllers sent commands twice for it to do so.

I'm sorry but as a parent, I find this extremely funny. Been there, done that.

10 posted on 01/24/2004 1:03:11 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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In other words, they did not bother to test it properly. What a bunch of incompetents! Flag waving and diversity training are not substitutes for solid engineering.
Disband NASA now!
11 posted on 01/24/2004 1:04:20 PM PST by eclectic
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What did they expect?

I mean, a RAD6000 system running VxWorks...

Nah, I guess that doesn't have as much octane as it would if the Mars Rover utilized the usual suspects in the hardware/OS wars, does it.

Anyway, cool stuff, especially the 'rocket cam' for Spirit.

12 posted on 01/24/2004 1:05:39 PM PST by Hoplite
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Wonder what version of Windows it's using? ;-)
13 posted on 01/24/2004 1:05:47 PM PST by DakotaGator
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Despite repeated "go to bed" orders from controllers here at JPL, the Spirit rover refuses to listen to parental command. It did not go to sleep even after ground controllers sent commands twice for it to do so.

"I have the utmost faith in the success of the mission, Dave..."


14 posted on 01/24/2004 1:06:23 PM PST by Jim Noble (Now you go feed those hogs before they worry themselves into anemia!)
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To: plain talk
The way it's acting, they must've installed shareware from Download.com. LOL
15 posted on 01/24/2004 1:06:58 PM PST by Viking2002
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To: Jim Noble
This only underscores why we need manned exploration. This is the sort of glitch that an astronaut on the ground could fix in about 5 minutes.
16 posted on 01/24/2004 1:09:09 PM PST by ambrose
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Needs a good smack!!
17 posted on 01/24/2004 1:10:47 PM PST by Camel Joe (Proud Uncle of a Fine Young Marine)
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To: Jim Noble
other "tin foil" thought... could China be sending conflicting commands to Spirit in an effort to kill any momentum for our exploration efforts?
18 posted on 01/24/2004 1:11:00 PM PST by ambrose
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To: eclectic
You do not know what is going on. By what right do you have to call anyone incompetent. This is the first real instrument of its kind. Just how would you meaningfully QA it? You have no knowledge of their QM regime. Have you any knowledge of professional QM/QA/QC in a real time aerospace environment, especial an off world one. There is a threshold past where one cannot test software without module deployment in the actual working environment. If you actually knew something about it you would understand that.
19 posted on 01/24/2004 1:18:19 PM PST by CasearianDaoist
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If they get this puppy operating again, I think it will be a big victory for NASA. Sort of like how they saved Apollo 13...
20 posted on 01/24/2004 1:19:59 PM PST by ambrose
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