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Going to Mars but losing my vote
Modesto Bee ^ | 1.24.04 | Greedy Geezer

Posted on 01/24/2004 12:25:32 PM PST by ambrose

Edited on 04/13/2004 1:56:14 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

It's more than a little bit upsetting to hear supposedly responsible people, including President Bush, talk about expanding the presence of humans into space. Space projects cost huge sums of money, and money is the real subject of this letter.


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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: greedygeezers; mars; martians
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To: breakem
Does anyone of FR read what they are responding to?

Do we need to go to space? Yes we do.
Do we need to grow goverment? No we don't.

That is from my original post. What I am saying is that the growth of other goverment functions is too much and when the time comes to cut what do you think will be cut first, science or welfare?
21 posted on 01/24/2004 2:11:11 PM PST by DMCA (TITLE 17 Chapter 1 Sec 107)
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To: DMCA
How do you know I read your reply before responding?

MY POINT was that the debt is not a worry to me and that space exploration could make much of it disappear.

22 posted on 01/24/2004 2:50:00 PM PST by breakem
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To: breakem
Because I assumend that if you click the reply button under my post that you read it. Or do you randomly click reply buttons with out reading the post? :->
23 posted on 01/24/2004 2:59:34 PM PST by DMCA (TITLE 17 Chapter 1 Sec 107)
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To: ambrose
Pills are the cheapest investment you can make in order to help people remain healthy. Do you think it's cheaper to give a pill to someone or to keep them on life support?
24 posted on 01/24/2004 3:06:22 PM PST by Shooter 2.5 (Don't punch holes in the lifeboat)
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To: DMCA; ambrose
"And yet your forget about the Great bill we are leaving our kids and grandkids. Debt service currently takes 15-20% of the entire budget and growing the goverment isn't helping. Do we really wish to stick our kids with a debt that take 35-45% of the yearly budget to service? "

Bush Brings Back Big (And Expensive) Government


25 posted on 01/24/2004 3:09:12 PM PST by Happy2BMe (U.S. borders - Controlled by CORRUPT Politicians and Slave-Labor Employers)
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To: wirestripper
The fact that it's being funded at all and touted as a plus by those that are supposed to call for limited government should be, but is not unfortunately, a suprise to me.
26 posted on 01/24/2004 3:12:49 PM PST by billbears (Deo Vindice.)
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To: ambrose
Dear Jack,

100 years from now, they will be talking about Mars; they will be talking about probes and rovers and the day America decided to send a man their.

100 years from now no one will care wether your foodstamp was invalidated, or your prescription benefit ran out.

You are that unimportant.

Regards
RovingFreeper
27 posted on 01/24/2004 3:13:12 PM PST by antaresequity
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To: ambrose
Cheap pills for geezers is not an investment. It is money down the rathole.

Yeah, what you said!

How many people here could buy your house and not have debt? There is good debt and bad debt. And the thing that our govt forgets, is how we should use the constitution to decide what kind of things we should spend money on. Govt is not responsible for retirement or medical bills.
28 posted on 01/24/2004 3:18:41 PM PST by WV Mountain Mama ("It is our choices that show what we truly are, far more than our abilities." Albus Dumbledore)
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To: ambrose
Mars bump!
29 posted on 01/24/2004 3:21:36 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Not too many but quite a few :^)
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To: ambrose
Good Grief .. was there this much criticism when we first thought of putting a man on the moon??
30 posted on 01/24/2004 3:25:07 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: Mo1
Yes...

and there was this much criticism when Queen Isabela funded Columbus' voyage to America!
31 posted on 01/24/2004 3:28:00 PM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose
Well gee .. and just think where we'd be if all those people sat on the butts and did nothing because all the critics thought it was a bad idea
32 posted on 01/24/2004 3:31:25 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: drypowder
"I will never vote for a Democrat but the person who touts unwavering support for the Constitution is my kinda politician."

Constitution Party

Take a look for yourself. It's just what you're looking for. We need more good Conservative folks like you.

33 posted on 01/24/2004 3:35:44 PM PST by Godebert
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To: ambrose
Try not to be so short sighted

The Space Program has given us technology that far exceeds it's initial, original cost. We have also developed Hydrogen Fuel tecnology from what we learned in space, that will help us become less dependent on foreign oil. We are currently on the verge of producing the first hydrogen automobile that actually works.

The by product of hydrogen combustion is water. This doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize, this will clean up the air we breath as well.

There are also countless advances to technology and benefits to our society that the Space Program has given us that are too numerous to mention.

Like I said, try not to be so rigid in your thinking.

34 posted on 01/24/2004 3:44:22 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: ambrose
Having voted for George Bush in the last election, I may do so again. But he doesn't have a lock on me. Both Howard Dean and John Edwards are looking better and better, and I'm sure as heck not too old to change!

It's hard to believe that anyone who would even consider voting for Howard Dean, could have actually supported George Bush previously.

They are at opposite ends of the political spectrum.

35 posted on 01/24/2004 3:47:45 PM PST by Jorge
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To: ambrose
Cheap pills for geezers?

Let's see you say that when you get there.....Many of them have to choose between pills or rent. You truely are one of the insensitive types the liberals stereotype "conservatives" as being.

36 posted on 01/24/2004 3:49:40 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Let's see you say that when you get there

When I "get there", I hope we'll have a government that is sane enough to ignore my belly aching and considers the needs of the generations to come. It isn't about me me me. I am smart enough to know that I am just like a piece of dust in the wind, in the grand scheme of things.

37 posted on 01/24/2004 3:59:06 PM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose
Heading for the stars and cutting my taxes is why I love this President.

As for the hoopla about budget overspending, most of what's been passed is fiscal reform...and the costs are being passed down to localities who will have to reform as well. It's going to be cutting programs season in many places and that's what being a conservative is all about.

38 posted on 01/24/2004 4:13:30 PM PST by eleni121 (Preempt and Prevent)
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To: eleni121
As for the hoopla about budget overspending, most of what's been passed is fiscal reform...and the costs are being passed down to localities who will have to reform as well

Good point.

I have heard people complain that cutting taxes in Washington has raised taxes at the state and local level. What they don't realize is that is a good thing. It means that power has been shoved away from Washington and back to a local level where, in most cases, it belongs. 9th and 10th ammendments, and all that. We never talk about it in those terms, but when we cut federal taxes, and the state has to pick up the slack it isn't bad. Its good.

40 posted on 01/24/2004 4:49:22 PM PST by marron
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