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Palestinians easily scale Israel's $1.9 billion security fence
worldtribune.com ^
| Tuesday, January 20, 2004
| staff
Posted on 01/20/2004 8:06:28 PM PST by Nachum
TEL AVIV Palestinian infiltrators have succeeded in breaching Israel's new security fence and barrier system.
Israeli security sources said Palestinian infiltrators have scaled the four-meter high concrete fence by using a simple ladder.
The Israeli project calls for the establishing of a 730-kilometer fence at a cost of $1.9 billion. Most of the project consists of a concrete wall or chain-link fence with sensors, cameras and military patrols.
In one case, the sources said, Arab infiltrators brought a ladder to the fence in the northeastern West Bank. They quickly scaled the fence and entered a waiting car that took them to Israeli Arab villages. The infiltrators were deemed as Palestinians looking for work.
The sources said an Israeli command center spotted the infiltrators but could not respond quickly enough to capture them. They said this constitutes a breach in security that must be resolved.
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Since the fence was built, the sources said about two infiltrations a month take place from the West Bank through the area of the fence. Before the fence was built, the number of infiltrations was reported at 300 a month.
TOPICS: Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 19billion; easily; fence; goodfence; israel; israels; palestinians; scale; security; securitybarrier
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posted on
01/20/2004 8:06:29 PM PST
by
Nachum
To: Nachum
I imagine that security at the perimeter will become better over time.
2
posted on
01/20/2004 8:08:09 PM PST
by
Ingtar
(Understanding is a three-edged sword : your side, my side, and the truth in between ." -- Kosh)
To: Ingtar
I imagine a little electricity running atop of the fence would severely reduce the scalability.
To: Ingtar
Some additional chain link fencing, razor wire, sensors etc should help keep the terrorists away from the humans. Helicopter-gunship patrols and minefields would be good too.
4
posted on
01/20/2004 8:13:46 PM PST
by
dagnabbit
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5
posted on
01/20/2004 8:19:51 PM PST
by
Alouette
(Proud parent of an IDF recruit!)
To: Nachum
Nothing that a little electricity and barbed wire can't solve. Anyone know how high this fence is?
6
posted on
01/20/2004 8:21:58 PM PST
by
Mr. Mojo
To: Nachum
If it's so easy to scale, why do they still come through the checkpoints?
To: Nachum
Might be easy to scale, but not so easy laced with highly volatile bombs strapped to your ribs. A few kids getting picked off by snipers might minimize the problem.
8
posted on
01/20/2004 8:34:11 PM PST
by
smith288
("YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWW" - Howard Dean)
To: dagnabbit
Some additional chain link fencing, razor wire, sensors etc should help keep the terrorists away from the humans. Helicopter-gunship patrols and minefields would be good too.Of course, you could do all that stuff without spending 1.9 gigabucks on the damn fence.
9
posted on
01/20/2004 8:34:35 PM PST
by
Poohbah
("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
To: Poohbah
I think the big advantage of the expensive parts of the fence, ie the wall parts, is that the terrorists can't shoot through the wall.
10
posted on
01/20/2004 8:38:31 PM PST
by
dagnabbit
(Tell Bush where to put his Amnesty and Global Labor Pool for American Jobs- Vote Tancredo in Primary)
To: dagnabbit
I think the big advantage of the expensive parts of the fence, ie the wall parts, is that the terrorists can't shoot through the wall.1. They can shoot over the wall.
2. They can shoot through the wall if they're willing to invest in the necessary firepower.
11
posted on
01/20/2004 8:40:46 PM PST
by
Poohbah
("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
To: Nachum
Since the fence was built, the sources said about two infiltrations a month take place from the West Bank through the area of the fence. Before the fence was built, the number of infiltrations was reported at 300 a month. That should have been the article's headline.
12
posted on
01/20/2004 8:42:16 PM PST
by
Diddle E. Squat
(www.firethebcs.com, www.weneedaplayoff.com, www.firemackbrown.com)
To: Nachum
It'll be more difficult for future wall jumpers to escape if they're skewered on punji stakes.
13
posted on
01/20/2004 8:44:07 PM PST
by
fso301
To: Mr. Mojo
I think 20 feet in some places ...
14
posted on
01/20/2004 8:44:59 PM PST
by
Bobby777
To: Poohbah
I suppose over would depend on the local geography and through, like you said, on Pali firepower. I've been taught that obstacles are useless without infantry covering them. Israel just needs to patrol their obstacle, which I'm sure they'll do with increasing effectiveness.
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posted on
01/20/2004 8:50:31 PM PST
by
dagnabbit
(Tell Bush where to put his Amnesty and Global Labor Pool for American Jobs- Vote Tancredo in Primary)
To: Nachum
The fence is not perfect
...therefore.....
it is no good.
Where do you find these brilliant people?
16
posted on
01/20/2004 9:04:35 PM PST
by
cookcounty
(A "Shaheed" is NOT a "Martyr.")
To: Nachum
They need to add a 300" wide area, the length of the wall, and line that area with large stone 10" in diameter.
These are commonly known in the construction trade as ankle breakers.
Anyone running over these is toast!
To: Poohbah
1. They can shoot over the wall. So can the Israels and to greater effect.
18
posted on
01/20/2004 9:11:56 PM PST
by
Mike Darancette
(Proud member - Neoconservative Power Vortex)
To: Mr. Mojo
Uhm...the article's 2nd sentence states that the fence is 4 meters high (13 feet or so).
19
posted on
01/20/2004 9:12:45 PM PST
by
xrp
To: Nachum
OK
Israel has tried everything else known to all of humanity.
Israel might try MOABs.
But I wont fault them for bypassing new technology. I guess a few nukes might work.
Couldnt hurt.
20
posted on
01/20/2004 9:17:23 PM PST
by
sarasmom
(If I get a fake blue card, does that mean I wont have to pay for health and auto insurance?)
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