El Norte The case against Bush's immigration plan.

Wall Street Journal - Opinion Journal ^ | Monday January 19 2004 1201 Hrs EST | VICTOR DAVIS HANSON

[Brian Allen]

SELMA, Calif.--President Bush's recent proposal to grant legal status to thousands of Mexican citizens currently working in the U.S. under illegal auspices seems at first glance to be a good start--splitting the difference between open and closed borders, and between amnesty and deportation. Politically it was a wise move on the eve of a Mexican state visit to grant some concessions to Vicente Fox. After all, the president of Mexico cannot ignore the $12 billion in worker remittances sent his way--and he can either encourage or discourage millions more of his citizens to head north in lieu of needed radical reform at home.

[Brian Allen]

PING!

[Brian Allen]

Rational Objectivity dot Ping

[Ben Ficklin]

Wiould you agree that a summary of the Hansen Plan would be:

Set a reasonable figure for legal migration from Mexico
Citizenship for those illegals that have been here for 20-30 years.
Deport all others
Enforce the border
Apply stiff employer sanctions
Return to social and cultural protocols that promote national unity thru assimilation and imtergration

[dennisw]

Good insights by VDH. I always respect his opinion and fresh ideas.

[FITZ]

Good article bump.

[jimt]

Excellent post !

[B4Ranch]

If President Bush is more concerned with the Hispanic vote than the plight of unemployed Americans, he should run for president of Mexico. I'm sure they would grant him guest politician status."

[browardchad]

BUMP!

[skeeter]

Forthcoming complaints about Bush bashing not withstanding, this in the best summary argument I've seen.

[spodefly]

BTTT

[sasafras]

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[Brian Allen]

<< Forthcoming complaints about Bush bashing not withstanding, this in the best summary argument I've seen. >>

Hear! Hear!

<< If President Bush is more concerned with the Hispanic vote than the plight of unemployed Americans, he should run for president of Mexico. I'm sure they would grant him guest politician status." >>

He's breaking our hearts 'cause he's leaving
He's fallen for criminals new
It isn't too easy believing
He'd leave after all we've been through
It's breaking our hearts to remember
The Laws we depended upon
He's leaving US slow dying Tenets
We'll miss our Nation, when its gone
We wish him joy, though our rage burns
And if some day he should want to return .....

Who's ever gunna be able to trust him again ..... ?

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[junta]

If this would have made it into the dead tree version I would have thought Hell had frozen over.

[Brian Allen]

<< Would you agree that a summary of the Hansen Plan would be:

Set a reasonable figure for legal migration from Mexico
Citizenship for those illegals that have been here for 20-30 years.
Deport all others
Enforce the border
Apply stiff employer sanctions
Return to social and cultural protocols that promote national unity thru assimilation and imtergration >>

Yep, that just about sums it up!

[Brian Allen]

<< If this would have made it into the dead tree version I would have thought Hell had frozen over. >>

Yep.

Me too.

[putupon]

grant legal status to thousands

Correction: 8 million + 5 family members of choice ea.(min.)

[B4Ranch]

Why not be a real gloomy curmudgeon, like I am

"grant legal status to thousands"

Correction: 8 million + 5 family members of choice ea.(min.)
Correction: 14 million + 5 family members of choice ea.(min.)

But, wages will not go down

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[putupon]

I stand corrected.

[B4Ranch]

Everyone will go home in three years..........unless they have an (Hip Hip Hurrah!) brand new "Anchor baby"!

Then, get ready, "once a child "anchors" into this country by birth, the child has all the benefits of any other citizen and immediately qualifies for an array of social services if the household income of his parents falls below a certain level. Free food, housing, medical services and, yes, even free money can flow to the parents of these anchor babies through their children.

I Love America, Amigo!