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Man could survive on Mars
Sydney Morning Herald ^ | 12/10/03 | Sydney Morning Herald

Posted on 01/16/2004 5:45:43 PM PST by ambrose

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To: ambrose
did you see the latest mars picture on Rense.com?
41 posted on 01/16/2004 7:43:57 PM PST by alphadog
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To: alphadog
So that's where he is. The bombing must have knocked him out there.
42 posted on 01/16/2004 7:46:36 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: SandRat
Los Angeles has air?

Yup... Chunky style!

(I don't trust air I can't see.)

43 posted on 01/16/2004 7:47:11 PM PST by Redcloak (Beer: It's not just for breakfast anymore.)
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To: F16Fighter
"SIGH."

"Total Recall" was a Pretty Good Effort at an Old, Very Good, Science Fiction Story by one of the Great "Science Fiction" Authors.

NO ONE has EVER "Pretended" that the "Story" was IN ANY WAY "Related to 'Reality.'"

The Author--Philip K. Dick--wrote the story to comment about "Human Nature;" NOT as a "Treatise on Human Technology!!"

Doc

44 posted on 01/16/2004 8:09:01 PM PST by Doc On The Bay
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To: djf
Wow, in so few words you told a tale that would last a rainy day.
45 posted on 01/16/2004 8:11:21 PM PST by IrishCatholic
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To: F16Fighter
My favorite Arnold line in Total Recall... some ugly mutant says "You've got some nerve showing your face here..." Arnold looks at the mutant in the face and says "look who's talking!"
46 posted on 01/16/2004 8:22:30 PM PST by ambrose
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To: alaska-sgt
It is my understanding that the average temp. (during the day) on the Martian equator is 60 degrees F.
47 posted on 01/16/2004 8:23:49 PM PST by ambrose
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To: alphadog
funny...
48 posted on 01/16/2004 8:24:23 PM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose
Things are much more hospitable underground, where the Martians currently reside.

The trusty shortwave was able to pick up Radio Canada this morning. Caught part of a discussion about polluting "other worlds"
and "humans" aren't going to go underground on Mars because there might be contaminatable "life" in them thar holes.

John F'ing Kerry 'em. The envirowackos here, I mean.

49 posted on 01/16/2004 8:29:39 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: ambrose
I had no idea water in liquid form could exist there. I was under the impression that if if was there, it was frozen for many eons.

Thanks
50 posted on 01/16/2004 8:53:14 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Who would the terrorists vote for?)
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To: ambrose
The bigger challenge will be going to Titan.

But first let us tackle Mars.

And Titan may be more inhabitable than Mars! Not in the sense that you could walk on the surface. More in that the atmospheric pressures suitable contained could be workable. Titan also holds VAST VAST VAST VAST (did I say Vast yet?) quantities of Hydrogen and Helium 3. Think of Titan as the big gas station of the solar system.

51 posted on 01/16/2004 8:59:53 PM PST by Malsua
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To: Malsua
The bigger challenge will be going to Titan.

But first let us tackle Mars.

Man did I bork my reply.

And Titan may be more inhabitable than Mars! Not in the sense that you could walk on the surface. More in that the atmospheric pressures suitable contained could be workable. Titan also holds VAST VAST VAST VAST (did I say Vast yet?) quantities of Hydrogen and Helium 3. Think of Titan as the big gas station of the solar system.

52 posted on 01/16/2004 9:01:19 PM PST by Malsua
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To: Doc On The Bay
"Total Recall" was a Pretty Good Effort at an Old, Very Good, Science Fiction Story by one of the Great "Science Fiction" Authors (Phillip K. Dick).

Dick also wrote the story that became the movie "Minority Report", a good story of the human condition and governmental abuse. I believe he wrote some others that became movies but can't remember for sure. Good writer.

53 posted on 01/16/2004 9:06:31 PM PST by Lawgvr1955 (Sic Semper Tyrannus)
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To: ambrose
'Man could survive on Mars'

Well why not? Lots of males of certain sexual persuasions happily survive in 'Uranus.'

54 posted on 01/16/2004 9:08:19 PM PST by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: ambrose
Sure looks like the parking lot at my local Wal-Mart!
55 posted on 01/16/2004 9:13:42 PM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: IrishCatholic
Perhaps we found the answer.


Astronauts wanted For Mars mission.

Must be short!
56 posted on 01/16/2004 9:15:29 PM PST by djf
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To: Malsua
Remember what mama always said... be sure you take a jacket!
57 posted on 01/16/2004 9:19:42 PM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: billorites
Your blood would boil and you would die.

What is the boiling point of water at 7mb?

I would think that even breathing pure oxygen it would be necessary to have the air one's breathing be at a pressure over 7mb, but how much above? At 200mb a pure oxygen atmosphere would yield a partial pressure of oxygen comparable to that of earth sea level. Lower levels would require a person to acclimate by increasing lung capacity, but I would think that doable to some extent.

The question then becomes whether it would be practical to have a survival apparatus which was lighter and more convenient than a full-fledged space suit. I don't know what the practical limits are; a 7mb Martian atmosphere seems like it would be a bit on the low side to offer much assistance, but it might offer a little.

58 posted on 01/16/2004 9:23:51 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: billorites
What is the boiling point of water at 7mb?

Actually, that reminds me of a thought I had a few years ago: one key to being able to set up an effective form of habitation may be having an atmospheric pressure which is above the vapor pressure of some convenient liquid. If the Martian atmosphere were above the vapor pressure of some liquid which could be locally synthesized, then one could dig or find a crater, fill it with liquid, and put a habitation at the bottom. Ballast would be needed to keep the habitation from floating, but differential pressures could be kept comparatively modest.

59 posted on 01/16/2004 9:29:02 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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To: billorites
Heh...

..and this is what you would look like without a helmet..


60 posted on 01/16/2004 9:34:18 PM PST by GulfWar1Vet (I am clean as a whistle!!)
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