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Before opening the borders, seal up the wombs!
WND ^ | 1-15-04 | Jane Chastain

Posted on 01/15/2004 10:12:41 AM PST by JustPiper

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To: JustPiper
It's too late - it's all over for traditional America. Find a gated community with good security and retreat within it now, before the prices get too high. We'll be living in Brazil-like conditions within twenty years.
21 posted on 01/15/2004 11:14:37 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves
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To: Pyro7480
isn't a real conservative

Whose job is it to say what a true conservative is?

22 posted on 01/15/2004 11:15:44 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Dante3
Adding your handle to a long growing list of Freepers
23 posted on 01/15/2004 11:17:03 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: JustPiper
I wasn't it making it my job. I think there are minimum qualifications though.
24 posted on 01/15/2004 11:30:55 AM PST by Pyro7480 ("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: chachacha
I have had it with bush but who else can we vote for. When the repubs become liberals who do we turn to. There is the Constution party and the Libertarians but they do not stand a chance.
I cannot not vote, then I don't count. What to do?????

25 posted on 01/15/2004 12:03:54 PM PST by Cardini
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To: JustPiper; Pyro7480; Barnacle; ninenot; GirlShortstop; american colleen; saradippity; ...
There are several things that real conservatives are not: Here is a sampler:

1. Anarchists;

2. People who think that there are no meaningful political definitions;

3. People who seem incapable of making distinctions between liberal and conservative and other "labels" which are actually effective shorthand for entire systems of principles;

4. People who act as if no one before the present moment has systematically examined basic questions and come to systematic and consistent conclusions;

5. Followers of Margaret Sanger (or Adolf Hitler or Josef Stalin or Mao Tse-Tung or Karl Marx or Lenin or other leftists) in any way, shape or form;

6. Xenophobes, frightened or otherwise;

7. Racists who deny the essential equality before God and before the law of each human being, regardless of the qualifications of birth. Each of us may qualify to be punished by the law but only by our individual acts or omissions not because of our respective ancestries;

8. Foreign policy ostriches who think as the Main Street bean counters did before Pearl Harbor that nothing is worthy of war;

9. Members of such groups as FAIR who seem to think that exclusive rights to own the United States, its governments and its public policies are some sort of unearned birthright and never to be extended to others.

A person can be a conservative but not without a measured knowledge and respect for what Russell Kirk described as the permanent things, not without a reverence for the values embodied in the Declaration of Independence, and not without the courage and wisdom which have combined with the grace if God to keep us free.

If you feel compelled to suggest that one person's ideals and beliefs are as good as another's, you are almost inevitably wrong. What is true and good and right, is true and good and right. What is not is not.

26 posted on 01/15/2004 12:05:50 PM PST by BlackElk (The auto-da-fe is God's chosen way to purge sin from the land!)
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To: Mr. Mojo
Yep, that is the dirtly little secret. But lets' face it, the 14th Amendment won't be repealed, sterilization will never happen, and the borders will remain wide open to the crimminals/terrorists of the world.

I believe the idea that ANY child born on US soil is an automatic US citizen stems from a relatively new reading of the 14th amendment. And I don't see how one gets to that conclusion from my reading of it - more likely it is something that self serving interests allowed to evolve.

I'd wager all congress would have to do is clarify rather than repeal it. But its moot anyway 'cause I doubt they'd even go that far.

27 posted on 01/15/2004 12:16:50 PM PST by skeeter (Fac ut vivas)
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To: BlackElk; .45MAN; AAABEST; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; Antoninus; ...
Racists who deny the essential equality before God and before the law of each human being, regardless of the qualifications of birth. Each of us may qualify to be punished by the law but only by our individual acts or omissions not because of our respective ancestries;

Anti-hispanic racism is a staple of America's history.

WASPs brought it from England, where during the Reformation they were at continued war with Spain. Between the prejudices of war and the ingrained Reformation prejudices against Catholicism, we have inherited an anti-intellectual knee jerk bigotry against Mexicans. Even today, the fact that most Mexicans are Catholic plays a huge role in this sometimes subconscious but pervasive racism.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the Evangelical Christian-leaning World Net Daily would want Mexican Catholics sterilized before coming here. What a disappointment that they chose to publish this Margaret Sanger-ish rant. Having recently been published on World Net Daily too, I feel sullied by association with this commentary.

28 posted on 01/15/2004 1:00:09 PM PST by Polycarp IV (http://www.cathfam.org/)
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To: CAtholic Family Association
The irony is that the demographic trends that are worrying to many stem from the very sorts of thinking expressed in this article. It is the practice of birth control and abortion which has lessened the ability of the native-born American population to maintain itself.
29 posted on 01/15/2004 1:09:01 PM PST by B Knotts (Go 'Nucks!)
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To: JustPiper
** "anchor babies."**

First time I have heard this term!
30 posted on 01/15/2004 5:11:35 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation; All
How big is the anchor baby phenomenon? It has been estimated that about 165,000 anchor babies are born (and automatically granted citizenship) each year. It might actually be higher. The exact figure is uncertain because all hospitals and physicians receiving federal funds are forbidden from inquiring as their patients' legal status. In other words, the U.S. taxpayer is financing medical care for illegal aliens, and those providing such care can't even ask if patients are legal or not! The state of California has a particularly liberal program to reward illegal aliens which includes free pre-natal care and delivery, and it's no surprise that 60% of babies born in LA community hospitals are born to illegals. In 1994, a majority of California who went to the polls voted to end such nonsense. But the will of the people was placed under a judge's restraining order until a later state government, at the behest of the president of Mexico struck it down. So the gravy train rolls on!

Of course the birth of an anchor baby is only the beginning.

http://www.americanpatrol.com/ANCHORBABIES/AnchorBabiesAllanWall.html

Also:

Anchor Babies: The Children of Illegal Aliens

Each year, thousands of women enter the United States illegally to give birth, knowing that their child will thus have U.S. citizenship. Their children immediately qualify for a slew of federal, state, and local benefit programs. In addition, when the children turn 21, they can sponsor the immigration of other relatives, becoming “anchor babies” for an entire clan.

Interpreting the 14th Amendment
http://www.fairus.org/ImmigrationIssueCenters/ImmigrationIssueCenters.cfm?ID=1190&c=13
31 posted on 01/15/2004 6:36:36 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: BlackElk
Bravo!
32 posted on 01/15/2004 6:40:50 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: JustPiper
"Jane Chastain is a WorldNetDaily columnist and host of the Judicial Watch Report radio show, heard daily from 4 to 5 p.m. EST on the USA Radio Network."

And she reads my posts. LOL

33 posted on 01/15/2004 6:43:24 PM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
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To: Coleus
Coleus,Prolife bump.
34 posted on 01/15/2004 6:46:06 PM PST by fatima (Karen ,Ken 4 ID,Jim-Go Eagles Go,)
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To: BlackElk
I disagree with #9, but have no problem with the rest of your post.

Btw, I've read Black Elk Speaks several times. It's a great book. Black Elk must've been an incredible man.

35 posted on 01/15/2004 6:53:54 PM PST by keri
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To: BlackElk
Did not know you were the expert and your word is Gospel...sorry
36 posted on 01/15/2004 7:12:09 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Texasforever
Thank you.
37 posted on 01/16/2004 1:16:25 AM PST by BlackElk (The auto-da-fe is God's chosen way to purge sin from the land!)
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To: keri
I took the screen name, amopng other reasons, to clear confusion as to Black Elk, who was a warrior at Little Big Horn, a pagan medicine man for about forty years thereafter as portrayed in the book Black Elk Speaks but the book was written by an Ivy League professor who wanted to do a noble savage book.

Actually, Black Elk was baptized as a Roman Catholic in about 1915 about 18 years before the famous book. Surely the author knew that since Black Elk was a lay Catholic missionary to the Sioux from the time of his baptism to his death in about 1945 as a 1990s biography revealed. When that biography was written, Black Elk's surviving daughters were quoted in the New York Times Book Review as expressing gratitude that his Catholicism had been recognized.

#9 is less important than most of the others.

38 posted on 01/16/2004 1:23:33 AM PST by BlackElk (The auto-da-fe is God's chosen way to purge sin from the land!)
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To: JustPiper
You are forgiven.
39 posted on 01/16/2004 1:24:06 AM PST by BlackElk (The auto-da-fe is God's chosen way to purge sin from the land!)
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To: CAtholic Family Association
What a disappointment that they chose to publish this Margaret Sanger-ish rant.

Good post at #28. Too true. The "black myth" of the Inquisition came about the same way. It's been pretty much debunked by the BBC.

40 posted on 01/16/2004 4:56:35 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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