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Police: Homeowner Didn't Have To Use Deadly Force
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| January 14, 2004
| Staff
Posted on 01/15/2004 8:00:56 AM PST by tberry
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To: sinkspur
I had a feeling while reading the article that it was something like that. Otherwise he should have shot them when they first came into his home.
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posted on
01/15/2004 8:47:48 AM PST
by
FITZ
To: tberry
Ask the DA if the perps had kidnapped a cop would deadly force be justified? You already know what the answer is, if you even look like you may touch the uniform of a LEO then you have "assaulted" him and deadly force is automatically justified.
To: sinkspur
There has been speculation in the local press that Deal did, in fact, know these two and that they were coming to collect a drug debt. Speculation on the basis of evidence (conspicuously absent from this story), or speculation on the basis of the press's hatred of gun owners?
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posted on
01/15/2004 8:49:14 AM PST
by
Sloth
("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
To: Lazamataz
It happens. One half of the Rightous Brothers died of a cocaine overdose at 67 recently....
Point taken.
Part of the reason I laugh with scorn at the "5% of the population" statistic oft bandied about.
Methinks letting the cat out of the bag would change many minds.
To: RISU
"were in there with permission to start with"????
Uh, one had a full face mask on. The good guy shot both in the head while all were inside the vehicle. Seating position has not been revealed.
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posted on
01/15/2004 8:54:18 AM PST
by
Deguello
To: Sloth
Speculation on the basis of evidence (conspicuously absent from this story),Cop-talk. My sons are Dallas cops, and beat cops know what goes on in neighborhoods, especially those where drug deals are common. This neighborhood was one of them.
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posted on
01/15/2004 8:58:23 AM PST
by
sinkspur
(Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
To: tberry
More to the story than we know is my guess.
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posted on
01/15/2004 9:02:24 AM PST
by
Protagoras
(When they asked me what I thought of freedom in America,,, I said I thought it would be a good idea.)
To: American_Centurion
Your gratutious swipe at LE has nothing whatever to do with the subject of this thread.
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posted on
01/15/2004 9:05:03 AM PST
by
sinkspur
(Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: sinkspur
So, the basis for this defamatory "speculation" is that it was a bad neighborhood?
Sounds like I called this one (see Msg#32).
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posted on
01/15/2004 9:05:25 AM PST
by
steve-b
To: Slings and Arrows
I hope the victim emptied his weapon into the goblins, reloaded, emptied it again, and then urinated on their stinking corpses. That post was worthy enough for me to laugh (and agree with) even through my current migraine.
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posted on
01/15/2004 9:05:56 AM PST
by
smith288
(Secret member of the VRWC elite forces)
To: smith288; Jinjelsnaps
Thank you very much. It came from the heart.
To: American_Centurion
if you even look like you may touch the uniform of a LEO then you have "assaulted" him and deadly force is automatically justified Someone watches "The Shield" too much.
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posted on
01/15/2004 9:13:09 AM PST
by
Gerasimov
(Oh calm down ... it was a joke. **mostly**)
To: sinkspur
It absolutely does.
Go kidnap a LEO and when he kills you see if there is one question in anyones mind if "deadly force" was justified.
It matters not that he may have known them, it matters not that he may have bought drugs from them. If they indeed did kidnap him, a question that wouldn't arise had he been a LEO regardless of alleged drug use, then deadly force is authorized for him as it would be for a LEO.
Deserved and served.
Comment #55 Removed by Moderator
To: tberry
He didn't have to use deadly force. He could have just surrendered meekly and been killed. That way there would be only one dead person instead of two. That's a 50% reduction in handgun deaths right there... How do you expect the police to define success?
< sarc> Definitely remembering to close the sarcasm tag on this one...
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posted on
01/15/2004 9:17:24 AM PST
by
gridlock
(There's no such thing as idiot-proof, only idiot-resistant. The ingenuity of idiots knows no bounds)
To: American_Centurion
Nothing to do with the thread, soldier. If you stay here long enough, you'll find plenty of cop-bashing threads where you can jack up your testosterone to your hearts content.
You're trying to turn this thread into one.
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posted on
01/15/2004 9:19:02 AM PST
by
sinkspur
(Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
To: Gerasimov; sinkspur
OK I'll admit some hyperbole in the sentance Gerazimov quoted. But my statement still stands about the kidnapping.
To: tberry
I'd like to replace the ammo for him. Who knows what they were going to do to him later. He had a chance to save his life and did what he had to do.
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posted on
01/15/2004 9:19:41 AM PST
by
US_MilitaryRules
(Daddy needs a Hummer! The H2 will do!)
To: sinkspur
Though my "born on date" doesn't show it. I have "been here" longer than you.
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