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I wonder why the reporter never contacted any of the 5 bishops in the state for their official comments regarding the issues above and whether someone can be a "devout" Catholic and still be in favor of homosexual unions, embryonic stem cells, human cloning, and needle exchanges. Nor did the reporter ever mention that the governor is divorced and has a daughter living in Canada and remarried in the Episcopal Church. The reporter never stated that the stem-cell bill included human cloning.

The stem-cell law gives patients at fertility clinics the option to donate for research unused embryos that otherwise would be discarded>>

The Catechism of the Catholic Church forbids in-vitro and in-vivo fertilizations for this very purpose. The so-called "embryo" is a human being and deserves to be born.

The church condemns the procedure because it involves researchers destroying days-old embryos.>>>

The church condemns the procedure because it involves researchers destroying human beings, with a soul, created in God's image and likeness.

1 posted on 01/11/2004 1:45:29 PM PST by Coleus
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2 posted on 01/11/2004 1:47:24 PM PST by Support Free Republic (If Woody had gone straight to the police, this would never have happened!)
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Catechism of the Catholic Church #2271...

CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH

DOCTRINAL NOTE
on some questions regarding
The Participation of Catholics in Political Life

Living the Gospel of Life:
A Challenge to American Catholics

A Statement by the Catholic Bishops of the United States

Faithful Citizenship:
Civic Responsibility for a New Millennium

CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH

CONSIDERATIONS REGARDING PROPOSALS
TO GIVE LEGAL RECOGNITION
TO UNIONS
BETWEEN HOMOSEXUAL PERSONS

An Old Testament, Litany of Life
Canon Law and Abortion

Catechism of the Catholic Church, 2274...

Sign Petition:
The Gospel of Life--Evangelium Vitae
Herod's Heroes


3 posted on 01/11/2004 1:48:29 PM PST by Coleus (Merry Christmas, Jesus is the Reason for the Season, Keep Christ in CHRISTmas and the X's out of it.)
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McSleazy must be talking lessons from Howard Dean.
4 posted on 01/11/2004 1:49:44 PM PST by Kuksool
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just what we need, a devout catholic bisexual governor.
6 posted on 01/11/2004 1:52:10 PM PST by oceanview
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I left the Catholic Church last year and became Presbyterian.

I was sick and tired of the Catholic Church's stance as anti-Iraq war even though hundreds of thousands of people will not die as a result of our intervention.

I was sick and tired of the Catholic Church ignoring the homosexuals in their midst (priests) who prey on young boys. It is not pedophilia, it is homosexual aggression gone rampant.

I was sick and tired of the Catholic Church giving an anullment to Edward Kennedy and turning a blind eye to his and other prominent Catholic politicians' indiscretions.

The Catholic Church needs to kick these Rats out of their church and refuse to give them communion. Tell them that they are not wanted. Tell Americans that if you support abortion, stem cell research, etc, you can not be a Catholic in good standing and receive communion.

When the Catholic Church grows some balls (instead of feeling them), I might return.
7 posted on 01/11/2004 1:57:40 PM PST by Erik Latranyi
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After the interview, McGreevey grabbed a copy of a book he's reading by Garry Wills, called "Why I Am A Catholic."

Yup, that's about right. Anti-Catholics like McGreevey and Wills need to be tosed out as they do grave spiritual harm to the Church by misrepresenting Catholicism to the public.

8 posted on 01/11/2004 1:58:51 PM PST by JohnnyZ (I pity the fool who thinks Bush's proposal is the same as amnesty!)
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**It is that same philosophy that allows McGreevey to continue to reference his Catholic faith at a time when bishops are offering prayers that the governor will change his mind about his stance on stem cell research.**

I'm afraid that Gov. McGreevey needs to wake up to what the Catholic Bishops are saying!


14 posted on 01/11/2004 4:10:49 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Why did you highlight the needle exchange. Is that against church doctrine?
18 posted on 01/11/2004 4:17:03 PM PST by breakem
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19 posted on 01/11/2004 4:20:04 PM PST by Coleus (Merry Christmas, Jesus is the Reason for the Season, Keep Christ in CHRISTmas and the X's out of it.)
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The Gov. can say that he is Catholic until you know what freezes over. He is a Catholic in name only. You cannot go against the teachings of the Church and be in good standing.It is about time that the Bishops start telling these jokers just where they stand. I cringe everytime I hear these people being refered to as Catholic.
20 posted on 01/11/2004 4:26:44 PM PST by mom-7
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Anyone who's foolish enough to believe McSkeevey should look into the events surrounding his divorce from his first wife. At the risk of sounding like Wesley Clark, it's common knowledge among Woodbridge insiders (he was mayor of that town prior to running for gov.) that he was carrying on an affair Jim Kolbe would be proud of. Once the wife found out, she basically dictated the terms of the divorce: she took her two kids back to her native British Colombia with no visitation rights OF ANY KIND being granted to Dandy Jim. In return, she keeps her mouth shut. The Schundler people knew about this, but were so chastised by the media pounding they were getting that they didn't know how to get it out there in a credible source. Now, Jimmy's got a new trophy wife and kid, watch the body language between them -- he's no more into her than I'm into Rosie O'Doughnuts.
26 posted on 01/11/2004 8:09:03 PM PST by BroncosFan (Pat Toomey for Senate!)
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If James McGreevey is a Catholic, I'm a Martian. How about those homosexual rumors I keep reading about? How about murdering babies??

McGreevey is a typical leftist Democratic Charletan. Since he is from New Jersey, however, nobody notices, not even the Jersey Republicans, who are, for the most part, hardly any better.
27 posted on 01/11/2004 8:13:29 PM PST by ZULU (Remember the Alamo!!!!!)
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The rule is very simple . . .
Whatever McGreevey says is a lie!

NJ Governor James McGreevey
A Miserable Failure

29 posted on 01/12/2004 1:18:47 AM PST by thenderson
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you're likely to hear a lighthearted story about the nuns who taught him at St. Joseph's grammar school in Carteret. ..."She prays for both Sen. Gormley and I both"

Bet those nuns love that grammar.

McGreevey disgraces everyone with whom is name is associated.

34 posted on 01/12/2004 11:08:29 AM PST by old and tired
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I wonder why the reporter never contacted any of the 5 bishops in the state for their official comments regarding the issues above and whether someone can be a "devout" Catholic and still be in favor of homosexual unions, embryonic stem cells, human cloning, and needle exchanges.

Good question, and why I get my news at FR.

41 posted on 01/13/2004 7:43:47 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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A note on terminology.

The term "devout Catholic" in the mass media invariable means someone who will claim a Catholic "identity" while simultaneously rejecting utterly one or more major parts of the Catholic faith, typically those concerning sexual morality.

Real Catholics call people like that "heretics," "apostates," or "cafeteria Catholics".

The mass media calls real Catholics "rigid," "triumphalist," "patriarchal," "traditionalist," "anti-Semitic," and "homophobic" ... but never "devout".

49 posted on 01/13/2004 2:41:39 PM PST by Campion
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Bologna.....McGreedy signed that bill even though 4 members of the Presidents Council on Bioethic requested he not sign the bill. The bill makes it a crime to clone a human being but defines a human clone as genetic material going from Egg THROUGH newborn. Therefor the clone must be aborted prior to birth. We are talking baby harvest farms here.

Some garden state we have. Just hope when God Zots NJ he spares me.

52 posted on 01/13/2004 2:59:46 PM PST by mware
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