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TEXIFORNIA OR MEXAS
NRO's The Corner ^ | 1/9/04 | John Derbyshire

Posted on 01/09/2004 4:03:22 PM PST by William McKinley

I am getting some very interesting sub-harmonics in my reader e-mail about the immigration thing. People are angry all over; but I am getting a fair amount of e-mail from people who are NOT angry, don't see what all the fuss is about, and are fine with massive illegal immigration from Mexico. A disproportionate number of these what's-the-fuss people write from Texas. Is Texas "special" in this regard? As compared to, say, California? One reader suggests that Texans have a much better-rooted sense of who they are than Californians do (heck, Texas was briefly a nation, wasn't it?), and so are comparatively insouciant about sharing their land with their neighbors. Is this right? If so, it throws an interesting light on GWB's attitudes.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: California; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: aliens; derbyshire; immigration
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To: William McKinley
This Texan is very angry at Dubya for his immigration stance. Practically everyone I know is angry at him for this. I am encouraging everyone I talk to about this to write in Tancredo on their ballot this November.
61 posted on 01/09/2004 11:26:00 PM PST by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. -Michelangelo)
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To: Ben Ficklin
The illegals arriving in Texas are a better class than those in California.

BS. They are one and the same.

62 posted on 01/09/2004 11:29:17 PM PST by dougherty (I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. -Michelangelo)
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To: dougherty; Joe Hadenuf
Ya you bet, just like those from NJ are one and the same as those from Texas.

There is a historical pattern of migration of Mexicans into the US just as there is a pattern of migration within the US. People from the NE go to FL and people from the midwest go to Texas.

Mexico is not one homogenius group of people. Do you know about the big people and the little people of Mexico? Those from the south versus the north? Can you comprehend the effects of "Operation Wetback" in that it birthed the maquilladoras which exposed northern Mexico to capitalism? Recall that when the reformers left the PRI they went to the PAN because it was the party of the "hard charging capitalists" of the Mexican north.

63 posted on 01/10/2004 5:19:45 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: dougherty
While I can understand being upset about this proposal (I don't like it either), encouraging people to write in someone who won't even vote for himself is very, very unwise.

That should be intuitively obvious. If someone doesn't think that voting for himself is a good idea, why should anyone else?

Not only would you not get any of what is in Tancredo's bill (not a single part of it) under Dean or any Democrat, you would likely find these illegals turned into not just guest workers but legal voters, ensuring that people you like would never, ever, ever get elected.

64 posted on 01/10/2004 7:25:18 AM PST by William McKinley
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Peter Robinson replied to Derbyshire thusly:
TEXIFORNIA OR MEXAS? HERE'S ONE EXPLANATION [Peter Robinson]

Having lived in California for a decade now, Derb, I too have noticed the difference in attitudes toward illegal immigrants between Texans and my fellow residents of the Golden State. The best explanation I've come across? That whereas welfare payments here in California are lavish, those in Texas are minimal. Which of course means that whereas Californians are quite understandably suspicious that illegal aliens enter our state to take advantage of our countless welfare offerings, Texans may rest content in the knowledge that Mexicans slip across the Rio Grande only because they want to work.


65 posted on 01/10/2004 7:25:55 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: William McKinley
I've lived in texas 38 years and I can tell you that in the last 10-15 years the non english speaking population has exploded. They are DEMANDING that we adhere to THEIR language, THEIR culture, THEIR ideals, etc, etc, etc...

They act as if WE owe them something. WE owe them nothing !!

Do I sound like I have a bad attitutde towards ILLEGALS? You bet I do.


66 posted on 01/10/2004 7:40:05 AM PST by unixfox (Close the borders, problems solved!)
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To: Desron13
I think Houston and Austin were the only blue areas in the 2000 election.

IIRC, most of the Valley, El Paso & Robertson counties went bad also.

67 posted on 01/10/2004 7:49:21 AM PST by Freebird Forever
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To: Young Rhino
4. Texas is more than a place. It is a state of mind ......

That statement pretty well sums it up.

Native born and very proud of it.

Oh, and for you illegal alien law breaking lovers, my forefathers also can to this country as immigrants as you all so ineptly and often point out. BUT, they came here as legal immigrants, obeying the host nations laws and worked for the good of the nation itself. They didn't come here looking for a handout

They were loyal to their adopted country and forever grateful for the opportunities that were afforded them and didn't try to bite the hand of their benefactor government. The kind of immigrant you're so quick to defend are unworthy.

68 posted on 01/10/2004 8:11:25 AM PST by Ron H. (I'm a RLCTX.net Conservative)
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