Kaloogian v. Jones in U.S. Senate Race - PRESS RELEASE

Howard Kaloogian for U.S. Senate Campaign ^ | 01-08-2003 | Howard Kaloogian

[Impeach98]

U.S. SENATE CANDIDATE & RECALL GRAY DAVIS CHAIR,
HOWARD KALOOGIAN,
ON BILL JONES ENTRY INTO SENATE RACE

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
January 8, 2004

(SAN DIEGO) – Republican U.S. Senate candidate, Recall Gray Davis Committee Chairman and former State Assemblyman, Howard Kaloogian (website www.HowardForSenate.com, issued the following statement on the entry of Bill Jones into the U.S. Senate race to replace Barbara Boxer:

“I welcome Bill Jones into the Senate race because it will present a clear choice to voters on the important issue of fighting for lower taxes. Our records could not be more different. When California was facing it’s last budget crisis, it was Bill Jones who led the effort in raising taxes – the biggest tax increase of any state in the history of the United States. I opposed that tax increase.

“California taxpayer groups, like the Gann Taxpayer Organization and the National Tax Limitation Committee, support my campaign because they know I am the candidate they can trust not to raise taxes. Those Californians who worked to remove Governor Gray Davis from office for his irresponsible spending are now enthusiastically rallying behind my campaign as well. Come November, Barbara Boxer will be joining Gray Davis in the political has-been heap.”

[DougLorenz]

Good point about Jones opposing the recall... I remember when he stated that he wasn't going to help the recall, but that he would consider running for Governor if other people went and did all the real work first...

I don't trust a politician that doesn't have enough passion to get out and get his hands dirty. Jones is the worst of both worlds, he's aloof like the rest of the "country club" type of Republicans, but doesn't have their money to be able to run a real campaign.

[Impeach98]

I'd say #5 is that you can't be a strong Republican candidate for office if you opposed the historic Recall Gray Davis effort. Jones is on record opposing the Republican Party's endorsement of the recall. He said it was a 'bad idea' - the laughable part is that he then said he'd run if they would nominate him. Very hypocritical :(

[Poohbah]

The Recall Gray Davis effort has "absolutely zero impact on the Senate"???

Correct. His involvement in the recall effort says nothing about whether Howard Kaloogian would be acceptable to 50% + 1 of the California electorate. If that's not true, then let's run one of the volunteer signature gatherers, because that guy probably did more than Howard Kaloogian did to make this happen. Heck, let's run Daryl Issa. Oh, wait, he's already lost against Boxer.

Someone I think a lot of Republicans will be hopeful we can beat Boxer BECAUSE of the enthusiasm created in Republican circles because of the successful Recall of Gray Davis.

That doesn't equal Howard Kaloogian being the guy who can beat her.

[Impeach98]

OK I just repeated part of what you wrote (Jones wanting to run when he opposed the party supporting the recall)... sorry!

[Impeach98]

I think Bill Jones is about the most unelectable Republican candidate there is today. The last time he ran his campaign imploded and since then he's done nothing but try to find an opening to run for higher office. Now he's found one and he'll again raise too little money, avoid any 'controversial' issues, and bore Californians into voting for one of his opponents the same way he did in the Simon-Riordan-Jones race of 2002.

[Poohbah]

I'd say #5 is that you can't be a strong Republican candidate for office if you opposed the historic Recall Gray Davis effort. Jones is on record opposing the Republican Party's endorsement of the recall.

My next-door neighbor is a very conservative Republican who gathered signatures for the recall, and he thought it was a tactically bad idea for the GOP to endorse the recall--he thought that the recall belonged only to the folks who made it happen, not the professional politicians, and that partisan endorsement damaged the grass-roots character of the effort. Yes, people can disagree on issues like that.

[Impeach98]

My next-door neighbor is a very conservative Republican who gathered signatures for the recall, and he thought it was a tactically bad idea for the GOP to endorse the recall--he thought that the recall belonged only to the folks who made it happen, not the professional politicians, and that partisan endorsement damaged the grass-roots character of the effort. Yes, people can disagree on issues like that.

Fair enough point. So what did Bill Jones do to help advance the 'Prop 13' of our lifetime?

[StoneColdGOP]

Kaloogian bump.

[Poohbah]

He probably voted in favor of it. That's about all Kaloogian really did, in the final analysis.

Howard Kaloogian and Darryl Issa didn't actually make the recall happen. All they did was float the idea, and the citizenry of California made it happen. If they hadn't done it, someone else would--and that someone would be no more or less qualified than Kaloogian. Participating in the recall != qualification for the Senate, or electability for same. If the citizenry of California hadn't wanted it, they couldn't have forced it to happen.

BTW, I am not a Bill Jones fan. When I look at the CA GOP bullpen, I'm really disappointed right now.

[Political Junkie Too]

Howard is UNELECTABLE. Period. He's not a serious candidate.

Can you elaborate? I'd like to hear more about Kaloogian.

-PJ

[Impeach98]

You need to look into Howard Kaloogian's work on the recall effort a bit more. Howard spent night and day working to collect the signatures needed for the recall to qualify. He was on every talk radio and tv program you could imagine. He organized rallies up and down the state. He personally circulated petitions. He ran radio commercials to collect more signatures and then later TV commercials to make sure the recall passed!

The recall wouldn't have even existed without the collaboration between Kaloogian, Melanie Morgan and Shawn Steele!

[Impeach98]

www.RecallGrayDavis.com

You can search the site to see Howard's work on the recall. He didn't just vote for it like Jones (presuming Jones did).

[Pubbie]

But I don't think Kaloogian could beat Boxer because the GOP will be spending money on easier targets in the South, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Nevada, and Washington.

But Kaloogian would have a better chance than Jones.

[DougLorenz]

Perhaps it's telling that one of the only people on this thread who's defending Bill Jones is doing it with the disclaimer of:

BTW, I am not a Bill Jones fan. When I look at the CA GOP bullpen, I'm really disappointed right now.

I personally AM excited by Howard's campaign. He's an energetic speaker, and really motivates the grassroots. If the U.S. Senate race can motivate the activists, then there will be an incredible trickle-down effect throughout the state.

[JohnnyZ]

Geez, you Californians really are internecine backstabbers.

1. Howard Kaloogian is a conservative, but has no name ID and no money

2. Bill Jones is also a conservative, weak in some areas but still solid overall. He has been elected statewide twice, and was the most recent statewide winner prior to Arnold.

3. Rosario Marin is a moderate on some issues, conservative on others, but still a strong partisan Republican. She wants to appeal to the Hispanic and female vote and freeze Boxer out on the Left.

4. Toni Casey is to the left of Boxer on social issues but claims to be fiscally conservative.

WE HAVE THREE GOOD REPUBLICANS AND ONE CASEY, LET'S TRY TO BE MARGINALLY POLITE SHALL WE FOLKS????????

[Poohbah]

spent night and day working to collect the signatures needed for the recall to qualify.

Gosh, I thought it was my next-door neighbor and a bunch of other folks like him who did that.

He was on every talk radio and tv program you could imagine.

That doesn't equal electability.

He organized rallies up and down the state.

OK, so now you're saying the ability to organize a rally makes one electable.

He ran radio commercials to collect more signatures and then later TV commercials to make sure the recall passed!

Wow. Are you saying that running an ad agency makes one electable?

The recall wouldn't have even existed without the collaboration between Kaloogian, Melanie Morgan and Shawn Steele!

So why aren't Morgan and Steele being touted as candidates?

[Poohbah]

Not so much defending Jones as pointing out that the arguments FOR Kaloogian are extremely weak.

[Impeach98]

I'm sorry was there something marginally impolite about what I said? I don't think there was!

Go Howard!!!

[Impeach98]

You are being a bit disengenous now. You said that Bill Jones and Howard Kaloogian did the same advocacy for the recall effort. I tried to point out to you that was a ludicrous statement but now you're suggesting that these specific examples are why Howard will win.

Kaloogian will win because his ideals and track record are in sync with Republican primary voters.

Jones has stabbed Republicans in the back (betrayed President Bush and then betrayed the recall movement) and demonstrated an inability to draw statewide support and enthusiasm in recent years.

[JohnnyZ]

My comment applied to everyone on the thread to whom it was applicable.