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Conservatives simmer as spending mushrooms under Bush
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Posted on 01/05/2004 1:19:09 PM PST by G. Chapman

Conservatives simmer as spending mushrooms under Bush WASHINGTON (AP) — Conservatives wait warily as President Bush makes final decisions about his election-year budget, three years into an administration on whose watch spending has mushroomed by 23.7%, the fastest pace in a decade.

While Bush has emphasized repeatedly the need to rein in spending, overall federal expenditures have grown to an estimated $2.31 trillion for the budget year that started Oct. 1. That is up from $1.86 trillion in President Clinton's final year, a rate of growth not seen for any three-year period since 1989 to 1991.

Much of the increase stems from the fight against terrorism and wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Also expanding relentlessly have been huge programs such as Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, which grow automatically with inflation, higher medical costs and more beneficiaries.

What has vexed conservatives most is the 31.5% growth since Bush took office in discretionary spending. That is the one-third of the budget lawmakers approve annually for defense, domestic security, school aid and everything else except Social Security and other benefits.

Such spending grew by an annual average of 3.4% during Clinton's eight years.

Further infuriating conservatives, Bush and the Republican-run Congress have enacted a $400 billion, 10-year enlargement of Medicare; $87 billion in expanded benefits for farmers; and $40 billion for increased veterans' payments and the Air Force's leasing and buying of refueling tankers.

"Re-election has become the focus of Republicans in the White House and Congress. And those in power have determined the road to staying in power is paved with government spending," said Brian Riedl, who monitors the budget for the conservative Heritage Foundation.

Mounting spending has combined with the recession and two major tax cuts to turn a four-year string of annual surpluses into deficits that last year hit $374 billion, the worst ever in dollar terms. Administration officials and private forecasters say red ink could hit $500 billion this year, with more to follow.

Things look bleak in the long run, too. Director Douglas Holtz-Eakin of the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office has said the Medicare bill could cost from $1.7 trillion to $2 trillion during its second 10 years, as the huge baby boom generation retires and foists added costs on taxpayers.

"The U.S. budget is out of control," the investment bank Goldman, Sachs & Co. wrote its clients, projecting large deficits for the next decade. "Any thoughts of relief thereafter are a pipe dream until political priorities adjust."

In the new budget Bush is to send Congress on Feb. 2, Bush is expected to propose limiting the growth of discretionary programs to 4%, perhaps excluding defense and domestic security. Last February, Bush proposed holding discretionary spending increases to 4% this year and next, although aides now say he meant to exclude the military and anti-terror activities.

Discretionary expenditures will hit an estimated $873 billion this year, assuming the Senate completes a House-passed measure in January combining the year's seven remaining spending bills. That is $27 billion, or 3.2%, more than last year.

"President Bush has been resolute in pursuing his priorities of winning the war on terrorism, protecting the homeland and strengthening our economy. In pursuing those, he's also exercised fiscal restraint," said Joel Kaplan, deputy director of the White House budget office.

Critics say with nine months left in the government's budget year, there's plenty of time for more spending increases, such as for war costs. And they note this year's discretionary spending increase, though low, adds to boosts of 11% and then 15% in Bush's first two years as president.

"It's an administration that in principle is committed to controlling spending but is unwilling to make hard choices," said Maya MacGuineas, executive director of the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, a bipartisan anti-deficit group.

The administration says most discretionary spending increases have been for defense and programs it considers anti-terror — the Homeland Security Department and other domestic security efforts.

Of the $209 billion three-year discretionary increase under Bush, which includes $20 billion Bush added for homeland security for 2001 right after the Sept. 11 attacks, the administration says $159 billion has been for defense and domestic security.

That means 76% of the increases have been for those programs.

During that same period, spending for all remaining discretionary programs has grown from $331 billion to $381 billion. That's 15%, or 5% a year.

"There clearly is a need for the Republican majority to sharpen its pencils and return to its foundation of discipline" in spending, said conservative Rep. Mike Pence, R-Ind.

"There is room for more restraint, especially as the economy recovers, but this is hardly the record of a domestic-program spending spree," White House budget chief Joshua Bolten wrote last month in The Wall Street Journal.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics/Elections
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To: sinkspur
"You actually believe that a president or Congress will cut the size of government, in real terms? If they did, it would the first time it ever happened."

Er, can you say federal welfare program?

81 posted on 01/05/2004 2:49:12 PM PST by A Navy Vet (The Nanny State: from cradle to grave...for your protection...freedom be damned.)
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To: Sir Gawain
No, it's a lie if it comes out of their mouths and they don't mean to do it.

So go vote for Ron Paul, who will SAY he will do it, but Congress won't let him. In fact, Congress will do whatever it wants, with a third party president.

82 posted on 01/05/2004 2:49:25 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: A Navy Vet
Er, can you say federal welfare program?

That's called "tweaking." Clinton did NOT shrink spending, overall, even though he cut the hell out of defense.

83 posted on 01/05/2004 2:50:24 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: Revel
So, I suppose that a liberal in the White House would have simply told the people wanting the drug entitlement program to go stuff it?

And exactly what welfare program for illegal aliens has the Bush administration passed?
84 posted on 01/05/2004 2:50:42 PM PST by Luis Gonzalez (The Gift Is To See The Trout.)
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To: Texas Federalist
They (especially Reagan) also used their veto power to at least battle excess spending.

Then why did discretionary spending continue to increase under Reagan?

Reagan also increased taxes, something Bush will never do.

85 posted on 01/05/2004 2:52:37 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: sinkspur
Reagan also increased taxes, something Bush will never do.

Directly maybe not. But all those federal giveaways amount to a tax, so what's the difference?

86 posted on 01/05/2004 2:54:38 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain
But all those federal giveaways amount to a tax, so what's the difference?

How is a giveaway a tax?

87 posted on 01/05/2004 2:56:21 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: sinkspur
That's my money they're giving away. Bush might not take my money by raising taxes, but he's taking it from somewhere for all these programs. They're not finding $250M under the couch.
88 posted on 01/05/2004 3:01:25 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"And exactly what welfare program for illegal aliens has the Bush administration passed?"

It was part of the recent multi billion medicare package. Something like a billion for medical care for illegal aliens.
89 posted on 01/05/2004 3:01:48 PM PST by Revel
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"So, I suppose that a liberal in the White House would have simply told the people wanting the drug entitlement program to go stuff it?"

Well as always it is the younger generations that pick up the tab. Even those without any heatlh insurance at all.
90 posted on 01/05/2004 3:03:20 PM PST by Revel
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To: Sir Gawain
That's my money they're giving away.

Unless Bush is asking for more from you this year than last year, he has not increased your taxes.

91 posted on 01/05/2004 3:03:40 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: sinkspur
No. It's disneyland to believe that Presidents or Congress will cut the size of government, since IT'S NEVER BEEN DONE.

Certainly it has. Real federal spending decreased in 1982 (-0.3%), 1987 (-0.5%) and 1993 (-1.0%). Plus, lets compare Reagan and Bush II in their first three years in office. Total outlays increased 6.8% under Reagan, 15.6% under Bush. Discretionary spending increased 2.8% under Reagan, 23.8% under Bush. Non defense discretionary spending DECREASED 13.5% under Reagan and increased 20.8% under Bush.

Don't try to play off Bush's behavior and claim that every Republican does it.

92 posted on 01/05/2004 3:04:54 PM PST by Texas Federalist
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To: G. Chapman
Judging from the replies here, it seems the vast majority of Freepers are putting PARTY before all else. How long are you willing to compromise? When does it end?

"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?" --Thomas Jefferson

93 posted on 01/05/2004 3:05:01 PM PST by Capitalism2003 (Got principles? http://www.LP.org)
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To: sinkspur
"Unless Bush is asking for more from you this year than last year, he has not increased your taxes."

It is called debt. And when the country goes belly up. We all go belly up.
94 posted on 01/05/2004 3:06:08 PM PST by Revel
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To: Revel
It is called debt. And when the country goes belly up. We all go belly up.

Gloom and doom. Doom and gloom.

95 posted on 01/05/2004 3:09:56 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: Texas Federalist
Where'd you get those numbers? I don't believe them.
96 posted on 01/05/2004 3:11:28 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: sinkspur; Revel; Sir Gawain; Tauzero
Gloom and doom. Doom and gloom.

Actually, "Debt", "Deficit", and "Devaluation" are the technical terms.

Note it was "possible" for the Republicans to keep Clinton in check, but seemingly not before nor after.

What's up with that?

97 posted on 01/05/2004 3:14:03 PM PST by Starwind (The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only true good news)
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To: dead
dead wrote:

I think every single poster on this thread, including myself, is a disruptor, and probably a Nazi too.





I'm not a single poster.. I'm married to she who must be obeyed, a wanna-be-nazi.

98 posted on 01/05/2004 3:14:35 PM PST by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but FRs flying monkey squad brings out the Rickenbacher in me.)
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To: Support Free Republic
Deficit spending aint so bad...just pass it on to the democrats, illegal aliens and moderate muslims planning on taking the country over...
Of course if you got kids or grandkids they are gonna suffer as tax slaves...and might not be too favorably disposed to treat those elders nicely who put them in that position...
I forsee Kevorkian life planning centers opening soon in a neighborhood close to home...
99 posted on 01/05/2004 3:15:16 PM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Yet, none of them had to deal with a major attack on the U.S. mainland, and the economic aftermath of 9/11.

The Bombing of the World Trade Center in New York City

On 26th February 1993, at approximately 12.18 p.m., an improvised explosive device exploded on the second level of the World Trade Center parking basement.

What would you call that Luis? And why do you think the Clinton Administration didn't take advantage of this terrorist attack by inciting fear mongering among the populace?...The Patriot Act is something that would seem right up his alley.

People ask what freedoms I believe I have personally lost to this fascist Act?
So I ask them...how many terrorists have personally attacked you?

I know Muslim zealots have committed terrorist acts against this country since at least 1968.

Ashcroft says the terrorists use our freedoms as weapons against us...He would eliminate such weapons. That, in essense, is what the Patriot Act is all about.

If Bill Clinton's Administration had proposed such an act, this "conservative" chatroom would have been endorsing revolution against the State.

100 posted on 01/05/2004 3:15:25 PM PST by KDD (Time makes more converts than reason.)
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