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Art Bell show | 1-2-04 | DFU

[doug from upland]

Well, I suspect that Art will have some good Mars discussions tonight. It is a big night for our space program.

[Pro-Bush]

bttt

[doug from upland]

Hoagland -- Mars was moon of bigger planet 65 mil years ago that blew up.

[Monty22]

Didn't take him long to get kooky.

[jbstrick]

Art admitted the other night that Hoaxland is mostly annoying.

[bd476]

Is he on tonight? When KABC's Joe Crummey went off at 9:00 p.m., so did my radio.

I thought Barbara Simpson (?) was on tonight.

Getting out the popcorn and reaching for the radio...

[doug from upland]

One key thing they're looking for -- they believe Mars is red because of catastrophe. The red is oxidized iron from explosion.

[doug from upland]

Hoagland thinks it will measure nickel contact of iron dust. Will confirm explosion of planet core.

[doug from upland]

I don't think Art would have missed tonight.

[mercy]

I hear the lander came in at exactly a 19 degree trajectory.

[doug from upland]

I didn't hear.

[doug from upland]

Nothing on this craft can confirm any biological life.

[mercy]

I'm kidding. Hoagland. 19 degrrees.

(perhaps you haven't heard richard and his 19 degree silliness.)

[doug from upland]

With this Rover, we could conceivably roll up to an old piece of destroyed house. (per Hoagland)

[doug from upland]

No, I didn't know about his 19 degrees silliness. Is it anything like the fixation on 19 by Calypso Louis Farrakhan?

[Pro-Bush]

Art just plugged the picture you posted, is Art watching this thread?

[SpaceBar]

Hoagland's claim to fame is having recieved something called the Angstrom Award. Here's some background on this prestigeous award that the charlatan Hoagland claims to have been bestowed with...

The only publicly known recipient of The Angstrom Foundation AB's "Ångström Medal" award is author and lecturer Richard C. Hoagland, author of The Monuments of Mars: A City on the Edge of Forever (see 4th rev. ed. (Berkeley: Frog Ltd., 1996), pp. 414-415). In August 1993, in Washington, D.C., Mr. Lars-Jonas Ångström presented Mr. Hoagland with the Ångström Medal award, also known as the "International Angstrom Medal for Excellence in Science." As far as I know, Mr. Hoagland's Ångström Medal award consisted of a medal and a handshake from Mr. Ångström; no certificate, diploma or monetary prize was associated with it.

The actual medal that Mr. Hoagland received with his Ångström Medal award was an Ångström memorial medal of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, and the academy has stated that The Angstrom Foundation AB did not have permission to use the academy's medal for their Ångström Medal award.

The Angstrom Foundation AB's Ångström Medal and Uppsala University's Ångström's Prize are two separate awards both using the same medal, the Ångström memorial medal of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences.

Mr. Lars-Jonas Ångström, a descendant of Anders Jonas Ångström, had good intentions when he awarded Mr. Hoagland with the Ångström Medal. However, Mr. Ångström's academic credentials are unknown to me and I do not know if The Angstrom Foundation AB enlisted qualified scientists to properly review Mr. Hoagland's work before awarding him with the Ångström Medal. source

Which translates roughly that he's a fraud. Not a scientist at all but a scientist wanabee, with a self congratulatory persona. He's also peculiar in the fact that he's alienated himself from NASA, JPL and any other bonafide scientific organisation he's tried to cozy up to.

[doug from upland]

Hoagland says he has picture of old housing complex.

[bd476]

Thanks for the continuing update, Doug.

[Simmy2.5]

Moon of a bigger planet? *shakes head* Knew he was a kook. Smart man (heard he dismantled a moon hoaxer's arguments extremely well)...but still a kook. Check out his website at www.enterprisemission.com

[John H K]

What about Hoaxland and his 19 degrees?

While I'm a science kook connisseur I haven't really kept up with him since the really good pics of Cydonia came out.

The really frustrating thing about science kooks is that in every field, there are a tiny, microscopic handful of kooks that at some point had actual real educational or job credentials in the field.