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ART BELL SHOW LIVE THREAD
Art Bell show | 1-2-04 | DFU

Posted on 01/03/2004 10:07:02 PM PST by doug from upland

Well, I suspect that Art will have some good Mars discussions tonight. It is a big night for our space program.


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To: NormsRevenge
bttt
21 posted on 01/03/2004 10:19:44 PM PST by Pro-Bush (Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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Hoagland -- Mars was moon of bigger planet 65 mil years ago that blew up.
22 posted on 01/03/2004 10:20:28 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: doug from upland
Didn't take him long to get kooky.
23 posted on 01/03/2004 10:20:48 PM PST by Monty22
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To: doug from upland
Art admitted the other night that Hoaxland is mostly annoying.
24 posted on 01/03/2004 10:21:08 PM PST by jbstrick (War is not fought for peace. War is fought for victory.)
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To: doug from upland
Is he on tonight? When KABC's Joe Crummey went off at 9:00 p.m., so did my radio.

I thought Barbara Simpson (?) was on tonight.

Getting out the popcorn and reaching for the radio...

25 posted on 01/03/2004 10:21:33 PM PST by bd476 (Happy New Year!)
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One key thing they're looking for -- they believe Mars is red because of catastrophe. The red is oxidized iron from explosion.
26 posted on 01/03/2004 10:21:43 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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Hoagland thinks it will measure nickel contact of iron dust. Will confirm explosion of planet core.
27 posted on 01/03/2004 10:22:13 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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I don't think Art would have missed tonight.
28 posted on 01/03/2004 10:22:50 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: doug from upland
I hear the lander came in at exactly a 19 degree trajectory.
29 posted on 01/03/2004 10:23:00 PM PST by mercy
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I didn't hear.
30 posted on 01/03/2004 10:23:24 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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Nothing on this craft can confirm any biological life.
31 posted on 01/03/2004 10:23:54 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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I'm kidding. Hoagland. 19 degrrees.

(perhaps you haven't heard richard and his 19 degree silliness.)
32 posted on 01/03/2004 10:25:20 PM PST by mercy
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With this Rover, we could conceivably roll up to an old piece of destroyed house. (per Hoagland)
33 posted on 01/03/2004 10:26:02 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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No, I didn't know about his 19 degrees silliness. Is it anything like the fixation on 19 by Calypso Louis Farrakhan?
34 posted on 01/03/2004 10:27:13 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: NormsRevenge; doug from upland
Art just plugged the picture you posted, is Art watching this thread?
35 posted on 01/03/2004 10:27:49 PM PST by Pro-Bush (Homeland Security + Tom Ridge = Open Borders --> Demand Change!)
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To: doug from upland
Hoagland's claim to fame is having recieved something called the Angstrom Award. Here's some background on this prestigeous award that the charlatan Hoagland claims to have been bestowed with...

The only publicly known recipient of The Angstrom Foundation AB's "Ångström Medal" award is author and lecturer Richard C. Hoagland, author of The Monuments of Mars: A City on the Edge of Forever (see 4th rev. ed. (Berkeley: Frog Ltd., 1996), pp. 414-415). In August 1993, in Washington, D.C., Mr. Lars-Jonas Ångström presented Mr. Hoagland with the Ångström Medal award, also known as the "International Angstrom Medal for Excellence in Science." As far as I know, Mr. Hoagland's Ångström Medal award consisted of a medal and a handshake from Mr. Ångström; no certificate, diploma or monetary prize was associated with it.

The actual medal that Mr. Hoagland received with his Ångström Medal award was an Ångström memorial medal of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, and the academy has stated that The Angstrom Foundation AB did not have permission to use the academy's medal for their Ångström Medal award.

The Angstrom Foundation AB's Ångström Medal and Uppsala University's Ångström's Prize are two separate awards both using the same medal, the Ångström memorial medal of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences.

Mr. Lars-Jonas Ångström, a descendant of Anders Jonas Ångström, had good intentions when he awarded Mr. Hoagland with the Ångström Medal. However, Mr. Ångström's academic credentials are unknown to me and I do not know if The Angstrom Foundation AB enlisted qualified scientists to properly review Mr. Hoagland's work before awarding him with the Ångström Medal.
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Which translates roughly that he's a fraud. Not a scientist at all but a scientist wanabee, with a self congratulatory persona. He's also peculiar in the fact that he's alienated himself from NASA, JPL and any other bonafide scientific organisation he's tried to cozy up to.
36 posted on 01/03/2004 10:27:59 PM PST by SpaceBar
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Hoagland says he has picture of old housing complex.
37 posted on 01/03/2004 10:28:28 PM PST by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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Thanks for the continuing update, Doug.
38 posted on 01/03/2004 10:28:33 PM PST by bd476 (Happy New Year!)
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To: doug from upland
Moon of a bigger planet? *shakes head* Knew he was a kook. Smart man (heard he dismantled a moon hoaxer's arguments extremely well)...but still a kook. Check out his website at www.enterprisemission.com
39 posted on 01/03/2004 10:28:35 PM PST by Simmy2.5 (Dean...If you want the whole US to be like Gray Davis' California, VOTE FOR ME!)
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To: mercy
What about Hoaxland and his 19 degrees?

While I'm a science kook connisseur I haven't really kept up with him since the really good pics of Cydonia came out.

The really frustrating thing about science kooks is that in every field, there are a tiny, microscopic handful of kooks that at some point had actual real educational or job credentials in the field.
40 posted on 01/03/2004 10:29:10 PM PST by John H K
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