Mars Exploration Rover Mission

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[P.O.E.]

Or maybe a tidal plain? I can't wait to see more pics.

[Paradox]

This picture has me intrigued. It certainly does look like soil that has been disturbed by the gasbags. And that does look like a fragment of something, one of the bags perhaps?

Also, the way that soil looks that has been disturbed, it reminds me of silt forming at the bottom of a pond.......

[Phil V.]

I'm struck by the black patina on the reddish rocks. It reminds me of the black patina seen in the canyonlands on some of the red sand stones of the American South West. In those cases the black is actually of organic origins. . . . long shot here, though. The blackish patina on the mars rocks is probably just weathered ferrous material.

[bonesmccoy]

Yes the rover has an arm, but there's no end effector (hand). There is a RAT (rock abrasion tool) that could probably push the rock around though.

Have you noticed how smooth those rocks look?

They're nothing like the rocks seen where Pathfinder touched down or where Viking landed.

Original Caption Released with Image: This color picture of Mars was taken July 21--the day following Viking l's successful landing on the planet. The local time on Mars is approximately noon. The view is southeast from the Viking. Orange-red surface materials cover most of the surface, apparently forming a thin veneer over darker bedrock exposed in patches, as in the lower right. The reddish surface materials may be limonite (hydrated ferric oxide). Such weathering products form on Earth in the presence of water and an oxidizing atmosphere. The sky has a reddish cast, probably due to scattering and reflection from reddish sediment suspended in the lower atmosphere. The scene was scanned three times by the spacecraft's camera number 2, through a different color filter each time. To assist in balancing the colors, a second picture was taken of z test chart mounted on the rear of the spacecraft. Color data for these patches were adjusted until the patches were an appropriate color of gray. The same calibration was then used for the entire scene. Image Note: CE LABEL 12A006/001

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Viking 2 photo

Utopian Plain The boulder-strewn field of red rocks reaches to the horizon nearly two miles from Viking 2 on Mars' Utopian Plain. Scientists believe the colors of the Martian surface and sky in this photo represent their true colors. Fine particles of red dust have settled on spacecraft surfaces. The salmon color of the sky is caused by dust particles suspended in the atmosphere. Color calibration charts for the cameras are mounted at three locations on the spacecraft. Note the blue starfield and red stripes of the flag. The circular structure at top is the high- gain antenna, pointed toward Earth. Viking 2 landed September 3, 1976, some 4600 miles from its twin, Viking 1, which touched down on July 20. Note: Unsure if this is from Camera 1 or Camera 2. This image was scanned from physical media.

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Pathfinder shot a stereoscopic view that I'll post subsequent to this one.

Original Caption Released with Image: The Twin Peaks are modest-size hills to the southwest of the Mars Pathfinder landing site. They were discovered on the first panoramas taken by the IMP camera on the 4th of July, 1997, and subsequently identified in Viking Orbiter images taken over 20 years ago. The peaks are approximately 30-35 meters (-100 feet) tall. North Twin is approximately 860 meters (2800 feet) from the lander, and South Twin is about a kilometer away (3300 feet). The scene includes bouldery ridges and swales or 'hummocks' of flood debris that range from a few tens of meters away from the lander to the distance of the South Twin Peak. The composite color frames that make up this 'left-eye' image consist of 8 frames, taken with different color filters that were enlarged by 500% and then co-added using Adobe Photoshop to produce, in effect, a super-resolution panchromatic frame that is sharper than an individual frame would be. This panchromatic frame was then colorized with the red, green, and blue filtered images from the same sequence. The color balance was adjusted to approximate the true color of Mars.

This image and PIA02406(right eye) make up a stereo pair.

Mars Pathfinder is the second in NASA's Discovery program of low-cost spacecraft with highly focused science goals. The Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA, developed and manages the Mars Pathfinder mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. JPL is a division of the California Institute of Technology (Caltech). The IMP was developed by the University of Arizona Lunar and Planetary Laboratory under contract to JPL. Peter Smith is the Principal Investigator.

[bonesmccoy]

Pathfinder site

[bonesmccoy]

What makes the dark color?

Is that unoxidized iron content in the soil?

[bonesmccoy]

At first I thought an air bag liner was still on the surface. Now, I realize that the surface is dark under the rocks.

I think the surface rocks were being pushed by the air bags. The rocks dragged the soil and revealed a darker toned soil under the surface. The end result was that the darker soil hasn't had the opportunity to oxidize in the fashion that the surface has.

[null and void]

Is that a "mark" from the air bag?

It's a mark. note that some rocks were pounded into the surface and have that 'muddy' looking soil smushed up in a ring around them.

[Phil V.]

In your first posted sterio side-by-side there are two features that I'd really like to examine closer if I were the one driving the rover.

As I examine the area between the two straight lines I see that this formation (strata? sedimentary??) appears to be tilted near vertical and slightly toward the camera. The far side of this formation appears to be 6 to 12 inches lower. . . . a drop off. I'd have rover drill into the far face to determine if it is indeed sedimentary.

The other point of interest revealed by my high tech turn-of-the-century stereoscope is in the oval. IT LOOKS LIKE A SPLIT GEODE . . . or clam shell . . . harrr! Very slim chance, but I'd really like a closer look. . . . Thanks again for the point to stereo. Will there be color stereos?

[bonesmccoy]

I hope they take more images of this area. The rocks seem to have unveiled a darker soil under the lighter red coating. It reminds me of the Viking 1 and 2 arm digging up soil in 1976.

[bonesmccoy]

I agree with you Phil. I was trying to get in touch with my friend and left him a message on Sunday. I'm sure he's really busy getting things ready for Opportunity, so I haven't heard back from him yet.

I agree with your observation of the drop off. That was the "ravine" that I noted too.

The real issue to me is "what in the heck is a ravine doing on Mars?"

Ravines are supposed to be carved out by water. This Gusev Crater target was choice. They've managed to put the lander right in the middle of some kind of lake bed. I didn't believe them when they said "lake bed" because I always envisioned Mars as a failed planet (no water).

This place makes me think that water could be a few feet under the soil.

Certainly, that photo of the rocks unveiling the darker colored soil under them (in the air bag skid mark) didn't dissuade the idea that moisture exists in the under soil.

Here's comments on the atmospheric pressure on Mars (earlier in the thread I incorrectly stated 70-80 mmHg from memory). I was incorrect. I was 7 mmHg!

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Mars has a very thin atmosphere composed mostly of the tiny amount of remaining carbon dioxide (95.3%) plus nitrogen (2.7%), argon (1.6%) and traces of oxygen (0.15%) and water (0.03%). The average pressure on the surface of Mars is only about 7 millibars (less than 1% of Earth's), but it varies greatly with altitude from almost 9 millibars in the deepest basins to about 1 millibar at the top of Olympus Mons. But it is thick enough to support very strong winds and vast dust storms that on occasion engulf the entire planet for months. Mars' thin atmosphere produces a greenhouse effect but it is only enough to raise the surface temperature by 5 degrees (K); much less than what we see on Venus and Earth.

[bonesmccoy]

Thanks for the cool idea... did you see the images in 3d?

[DFW_Repub]

Assuming we do locate evidence of past life on Mars, is that life entitled to Social Security benefits?

[bonesmccoy]

This mission is not capable of detecting biological activity. However, since the mission is being controlled from Calleyfourneyah, there is the possibility that the Martian vote may put a referendum on the November '04 ballot! (LOL)

[Phil V.]

What makes the dark color?

The most exotic answer would be an organic process - the same as the one that stains the red sandstone black on some of the cliff faces in the south west. . . .slim to none, but what th' hey!!

The most likely (a MORE likely) answer would be that it is at a different level of oxidation and a different level of hydrated iron.

[djf]

The rocks at the current site do look smoother, but you can still see some sharp features to them. I suspect that since this area is about the flattest we have been to, the culprit is wind abrasion. Here is a shot of material collected from the debris field of Shasta. It's hard to get the exposure right with my cheapo digicam! But the interior has a distinct pink/red flavor, whilst the exterior has been darkened, I don't think it's oxidation, rather some photochemical effect. (light exposure)

[HighWheeler]

"... did you see the images in 3d?"

Oh yeah, they are beautiful, you did a great job piecing the images together.