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Pope wants new international order to keep peace
Reuters | January 1, 2004 | Claire Soares

Posted on 01/01/2004 5:55:35 AM PST by HAL9000

VATICAN CITY, Jan 1 (Reuters) - The world needs a "new international order" to solve its conflicts and ensure peace, Pope John Paul said in his New Year's Day address on Thursday.

The ghosts of 2003 -- when the United States invaded Iraq without United Nations approval -- dominated the pope's first speech of 2004.

"More than ever we need a new international order which draws on the experience and results of the United Nations," the 83-year-old pontiff said at a mass in St Peter's Basilica.

"An order which is capable of finding adequate solutions to today's problems, based on the dignity of human beings, on integrating all society, on solidarity between rich and poor countries, on the sharing of resources and the extraordinary results of scientific and technological progress," he added.

Speaking at Christendom's largest church, the pope urged people not to lose hope of finding peace in the Holy Land, which the Vatican feels is vital to winning the war on terror.

"The land in which Jesus was born sadly continues to live in a dramatic condition. And in other parts of the world sparks of violence and conflict have not been extinguished either. But we need to persevere and not bow to the temptation of losing hope."

Turning to Africa, the pope paid tribute to his Burundi ambassador, Michael Courtney, killed on Monday in an ambush the army has blamed on rebels who have refused to join a peace process to end a 10-year conflict.

"(He) was tragically killed...while he was going about his mission of promoting dialogue and reconciliation. We pray for him and hope his example and sacrifice will bear the fruits of peace in Burundi and the world," the pope said.

The leader of the world's one billion Catholics, who suffers from Parkinson's disease that makes it difficult for him to talk, seemed alert and read all of his homily in a clear voice.

But it is unclear what 2004 holds for him. For the first time since his election in 1978, the pope enters the new year with no firm plans for travel, although there have been some invitations.

He was particularly weak on his last foreign trip, a visit to Slovakia in September, when aides had to read most of his addresses for him.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: johnpaulii; newnwo; pope; un; unitednations
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To: Bluntpoint
I see the RC denial Kool-Aid is flowing freely today. Somebody must think it's good for a hangover.
181 posted on 01/01/2004 9:21:06 AM PST by Iowegian
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To: cajungirl; Consort
The Sisters of No More Mercy.
        LOL,,armed with rulers.


Could the Hague be replaced with "the cloak room"?   :-)
182 posted on 01/01/2004 9:21:20 AM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: BlackElk
Happy New Year General!

I can feel the love on this thread LOL. You know what gets me, everybody wants this 'warrior pope' yet they dig up bones about 'the Inquisition' and 'the Crusades.'

Or/then, having no 'pope' of their own, being their own pope, they can fall back to a safe position and critisize.

I wonder when we are going to hear from them on the moral decay of their own country and leaders and the continued globalization of their own country.

Peace be with you on this Great Feast Day, Mary, Mother of God! And, long live Pope John Paul the Great!

183 posted on 01/01/2004 9:22:53 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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To: Iowegian
I see the RC denial Kool-Aid is flowing freely today

Watch your tongue, heretic, or they'll put the thumbscrews on you!

184 posted on 01/01/2004 9:25:00 AM PST by WackyKat
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To: cajungirl
"Onward christian soldiers"


185 posted on 01/01/2004 9:25:25 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: GirlShortstop
LOL! Turn those Sisters loose on Saddam and he will be crying like a baby in a day.
186 posted on 01/01/2004 9:26:35 AM PST by cajungirl (I adore the Brits!! Tony Blair is my hero!!)
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To: Tao Yin; B-Chan
Tao Yin: YOPIOS (Your own personal interpretation of Scripture) or the Teaching Magisterium of the Roman Catholic Church founded by Jesus Christ (Matthew 16:18)? No brainer. Ya gotta go with Rome on the religious stuff if you are a Christian. There is some injunction in Scripture against adding or detracting and your suggestion that Peter is referenced by Christ as Satan is a prime example of why. Are we to believe that Peter blessed and recognized by Christ as the rock (as you concede) is also Satan? Really, the lengths to which you go! Why did it take 1500 years to establish Christ's Church which simply must be the alternative reformer theory? You suggest that Jesus Christ was incarnated, born, lived, performed all that is told in Scripture, died, resurrected all so that a renegade priest could found the church 1500 or so years later? That is tough on those who died between 33 AD and 1517.

How about the Gospel of John? Unless you eat My Flesh and drink My Blood, you shall not see God? John reports that many of the disciples found that a hard saying by Christ and walked away. They knew Him personally and rejected Him. No surprise that many disciples are still walking away.

Further, Christ chose 12 apostles. Among them were Peter (who denied Him three times), Thomas (who questioned the Resurrection) and Judas (well, Judas!!!!). None perfect among those three. Maybe the message was not to expect perfect leaders. The Catholic Church established by Jesus Christ persists as He guaranteed, through more than 300 sccessors to Peter. Ubi petrus, ibi ecclesia! No surprise there, either.

Note that you started this by giving unwanted advice to Catholics.

B-Chan: Have you still got that old cereal box to post?

187 posted on 01/01/2004 9:27:23 AM PST by BlackElk (The auto-da-fe is God's chosen way to purge sin from the land.!)
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To: Bluntpoint
Get thee to a real education not inspired by the excesses of Reformation propaganda:

Inquisition, by Edward Peters.

188 posted on 01/01/2004 9:28:25 AM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: HAL9000
- The world needs a "new international order" to solve its conflicts and ensure peace

"What is the most important aspect of civilization, Il Papa?"
"It is peace, my son."
"But Jesus said he came bringing a sword."
"Jesus was a hothead, bambino."
"The Soviet Union had a very peaceful society, Papa.  Was that better than living in freedom?"
"You ask a lot of questions for a kid."
"Maybe placing peace at the top of your to-do list is premature.  Maybe we should secure freedom first."
"What do you know about the world, kid.  You live in a tiny world all your own."
"So do you, Papa. So do you."
"Get this kid outta here."

189 posted on 01/01/2004 9:28:58 AM PST by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: cajungirl
The new Pope warrior prototype:


190 posted on 01/01/2004 9:29:25 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: BlackElk
If the AmChurch left can take opportunistic advantage of the usual peace claptrap emanating from the Vatican as it does from most religions as an occasion to make Americans and particularly Catholics despise the Vatican, then it will be easier to establish an even MORE renegade left AmChurch

Uggghhh.  A sad, pathetic calling.
In spite of the pall of such a thing, Happy New Year BlackElk.

191 posted on 01/01/2004 9:30:52 AM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: cajungirl
Gotta go to Mass. Like MacArthur, I shall return!
192 posted on 01/01/2004 9:30:57 AM PST by BlackElk (The auto-da-fe is God's chosen way to purge sin from the land.!)
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To: Bluntpoint
Now that is offensive! I think I stumbled onto a little war on FR. Yall all seem to know each other from prior tangles. I am an innocent bystander here.
193 posted on 01/01/2004 9:30:58 AM PST by cajungirl (I adore the Brits!! Tony Blair is my hero!!)
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Or/then, having no 'pope' of their own, being their own pope, they can fall back to a safe position and critisize.

Good thing the Founding Fathers rejected a theocracy and gave us the First Amendment, isn't it?

194 posted on 01/01/2004 9:31:33 AM PST by WackyKat
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To: BlackElk
Pray for us! all of us
195 posted on 01/01/2004 9:32:10 AM PST by cajungirl (I adore the Brits!! Tony Blair is my hero!!)
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To: Publius6961
Reformationists are happy people!


196 posted on 01/01/2004 9:32:31 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: cajungirl
You forgot your armor:


197 posted on 01/01/2004 9:35:34 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: cajungirl
I think I read somewhere that ole Louis the Liar is in private practice in Atlanta??
198 posted on 01/01/2004 9:37:34 AM PST by the blood of tyrants
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To: BlackElk
He is none of my business just as Catholicism is none of yours.
Please quit your usual whining about Catholic-bashing. It is so tiresome and predictable.

If the pope had announced that Catholics should pray more or tithe more, then you might arguably have a point. However, the pope, who is a public figure, made a political recommendation to the entire world that, if enacted, would affect the entire world, not just Catholics. Because of this, his comments are free game for criticism just as Howard Dean's rambling musings are free game for criticism.

Please resolve in 2004 not to use your tiresome "Catholic-bashing" whine quite so much.


199 posted on 01/01/2004 9:37:41 AM PST by DallasMike
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To: cajungirl
I think I read somewhere that ole Louis the Liar is in private practice in Atlanta??
200 posted on 01/01/2004 9:38:18 AM PST by the blood of tyrants
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