Pope wants new international order to keep peace

Reuters | January 1, 2004 | Claire Soares

[Iowegian]

I see the RC denial Kool-Aid is flowing freely today. Somebody must think it's good for a hangover.

[GirlShortstop]

The Sisters of No More Mercy.
        LOL,,armed with rulers.

Could the Hague be replaced with "the cloak room"?   :-)

[Cap'n Crunch]

Happy New Year General!

I can feel the love on this thread LOL. You know what gets me, everybody wants this 'warrior pope' yet they dig up bones about 'the Inquisition' and 'the Crusades.'

Or/then, having no 'pope' of their own, being their own pope, they can fall back to a safe position and critisize.

I wonder when we are going to hear from them on the moral decay of their own country and leaders and the continued globalization of their own country.

Peace be with you on this Great Feast Day, Mary, Mother of God! And, long live Pope John Paul the Great!

[WackyKat]

I see the RC denial Kool-Aid is flowing freely today

Watch your tongue, heretic, or they'll put the thumbscrews on you!

[Bluntpoint]

"Onward christian soldiers"

[cajungirl]

LOL! Turn those Sisters loose on Saddam and he will be crying like a baby in a day.

[BlackElk]

Tao Yin: YOPIOS (Your own personal interpretation of Scripture) or the Teaching Magisterium of the Roman Catholic Church founded by Jesus Christ (Matthew 16:18)? No brainer. Ya gotta go with Rome on the religious stuff if you are a Christian. There is some injunction in Scripture against adding or detracting and your suggestion that Peter is referenced by Christ as Satan is a prime example of why. Are we to believe that Peter blessed and recognized by Christ as the rock (as you concede) is also Satan? Really, the lengths to which you go! Why did it take 1500 years to establish Christ's Church which simply must be the alternative reformer theory? You suggest that Jesus Christ was incarnated, born, lived, performed all that is told in Scripture, died, resurrected all so that a renegade priest could found the church 1500 or so years later? That is tough on those who died between 33 AD and 1517.

How about the Gospel of John? Unless you eat My Flesh and drink My Blood, you shall not see God? John reports that many of the disciples found that a hard saying by Christ and walked away. They knew Him personally and rejected Him. No surprise that many disciples are still walking away.

Further, Christ chose 12 apostles. Among them were Peter (who denied Him three times), Thomas (who questioned the Resurrection) and Judas (well, Judas!!!!). None perfect among those three. Maybe the message was not to expect perfect leaders. The Catholic Church established by Jesus Christ persists as He guaranteed, through more than 300 sccessors to Peter. Ubi petrus, ibi ecclesia! No surprise there, either.

Note that you started this by giving unwanted advice to Catholics.

B-Chan: Have you still got that old cereal box to post?

[Publius6961]

Get thee to a real education not inspired by the excesses of Reformation propaganda:

Inquisition, by Edward Peters.

[gcruse]

- The world needs a "new international order" to solve its conflicts and ensure peace

"What is the most important aspect of civilization, Il Papa?"
"It is peace, my son."
"But Jesus said he came bringing a sword."
"Jesus was a hothead, bambino."
"The Soviet Union had a very peaceful society, Papa.  Was that better than living in freedom?"
"You ask a lot of questions for a kid."
"Maybe placing peace at the top of your to-do list is premature.  Maybe we should secure freedom first."
"What do you know about the world, kid.  You live in a tiny world all your own."
"So do you, Papa. So do you."
"Get this kid outta here."

[Bluntpoint]

The new Pope warrior prototype:

[GirlShortstop]

If the AmChurch left can take opportunistic advantage of the usual peace claptrap emanating from the Vatican as it does from most religions as an occasion to make Americans and particularly Catholics despise the Vatican, then it will be easier to establish an even MORE renegade left AmChurch

Uggghhh.  A sad, pathetic calling.
In spite of the pall of such a thing, Happy New Year BlackElk.

[BlackElk]

Gotta go to Mass. Like MacArthur, I shall return!

[cajungirl]

Now that is offensive! I think I stumbled onto a little war on FR. Yall all seem to know each other from prior tangles. I am an innocent bystander here.

[WackyKat]

Or/then, having no 'pope' of their own, being their own pope, they can fall back to a safe position and critisize.

Good thing the Founding Fathers rejected a theocracy and gave us the First Amendment, isn't it?

[cajungirl]

Pray for us! all of us

[Bluntpoint]

Reformationists are happy people!

[Bluntpoint]

You forgot your armor:

[the blood of tyrants]

I think I read somewhere that ole Louis the Liar is in private practice in Atlanta??

[DallasMike]

He is none of my business just as Catholicism is none of yours.

Please quit your usual whining about Catholic-bashing. It is so tiresome and predictable.

If the pope had announced that Catholics should pray more or tithe more, then you might arguably have a point. However, the pope, who is a public figure, made a political recommendation to the entire world that, if enacted, would affect the entire world, not just Catholics. Because of this, his comments are free game for criticism just as Howard Dean's rambling musings are free game for criticism.

Please resolve in 2004 not to use your tiresome "Catholic-bashing" whine quite so much.

[the blood of tyrants]

I think I read somewhere that ole Louis the Liar is in private practice in Atlanta??