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1 posted on 12/30/2003 3:47:18 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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43 posted on 12/30/2003 3:56:35 PM PST by Bethbg79 (God bless our Troops and their families!)
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That's the same flight no. under suspicion before.

Apparently the French did it twice: they questioned and released Richard Reid, so he could get on the next flight and try to blow it up and now they questioned and released the terrorists on Christmas eve and let them loose, so they can try again.
47 posted on 12/30/2003 3:57:08 PM PST by FairOpinion
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Bump to follow-up on
50 posted on 12/30/2003 3:57:38 PM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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Please give usupdates, as you get them
53 posted on 12/30/2003 3:57:54 PM PST by FairOpinion
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http://www.flytecomm.com/cgi-bin/trackflight

go here and enter Air France 68 as the data then look at the map...

the F16s are refueling from Tanker 64....calling Bigfoot (McChord), asking for instructions.

57 posted on 12/30/2003 3:59:50 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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FlyteComm lists flight 68 as being on the ground, and not leaving until tomorrow...are you sure, or is this a hoax?
59 posted on 12/30/2003 3:59:58 PM PST by BlownChevelle
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Have they givin any indication that there is any problem with this aircraft?
88 posted on 12/30/2003 4:09:28 PM PST by Husker24
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the F16s and BIGFOOT are talking....I can only hear one side of the conversation....they said there is already a pair of planes tracking the 747...they are talking about where the handoff will occur.
93 posted on 12/30/2003 4:10:06 PM PST by BurbankKarl
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How come the map shows the flight line going over lower canada most of the way?
96 posted on 12/30/2003 4:10:41 PM PST by KillTime
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Thanks Karl, it's threads like this that make Free Republic so much better than any other news source . . . none of the networks bothered to tell us we are actually shadowing these flights . . . this is excellent "on the ground" citizen reporting . . .
154 posted on 12/30/2003 4:19:44 PM PST by LikeLight ( ___________________________________ it's a line)
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Do we know that this isn't just one of those "exercises" that the Air Force practices on commercial airliners?

-PJ

181 posted on 12/30/2003 4:25:12 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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Sorry, I cain't follow:

NORAD, SOP, SOB, LAX, LFPG, LOL, ENVO, AWACS, NBA, CDG...

Can someone splain?
185 posted on 12/30/2003 4:25:33 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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<===Mash This

french Army to Market "Ultimate Surrender" Video Game

Paris - Inspired by the commercial success of the United States Army’s "Boot Camp" video game, the General Staff of the french Army has announced plans to market "Ultimate Surrender," a video game based upon the proud military traditions of the Gauls.

In the game we follow the exploits of Lucky Pierre, an apprentice garlic salesman from Marseilles, as he joins the french Army and begins a rigorous course of combat training.

The First Level of the game is called "Survival School," and the players have to help Lucky Pierre survive 24 hours without red wine or crème brulé.

The Second Level is "Capitulation," and the goal here is to see which player can have Lucky Pierre surrender the fastest without firing a shot or getting his uniform dirty.

Level Three is "Collaboration." Here the players battle to see who can collect the largest numbers of pairs of nylon stockings and packages of chocolates by having Lucky Pierre perform sexual favors for members of the occupying forces.

Level Four is "Be Ungrateful to America for Rescuing Your Sorry french Ass Once Again." In this extremely challenging part of the game contestants vie with one another to see who can make Lucky Pierre behave in the surliest manner when the United States inevitably comes to the rescue of the defeated french.

The Final Level is "Pretending to Have Been in the Resistance." Here contestants compete in a battle of tall tales and whoppers as they try to protect Lucky Pierre from treason charges.

Marketing tests show that "Ultimate Surrender" is a big hit with french teenagers and young adults who are too young to have experienced france’s lightening surrender to the Germans in 1940 or its defeat by the Vietnamese in 1954 at Dien Bien Phu. "Zees is a great tool to inspire ze patriotism in ze youths, n’est ce pas?" said General Jean-Jacques Loseur, Commander-in-Chief of the french Army, during his weekly press conference. "Since ze end of ze Cold War we french have not had many opportunities to surrender or to show great cowardice in the face of much weaker opponents."

When questioned about comments made in the french Chamber of Deputies that "Ultimate Surrender" makes the french Army look like a bunch of gutless mama’s boys, General Loseur pulled out a white handkerchief, put his hands over his head and said, "Oh heck, I give up."

198 posted on 12/30/2003 4:27:53 PM PST by SAMWolf (Help Wanted: Telepath. You know where to apply.)
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Air France flight number 68  (AF68)

  Departure Arrival
Airport: Paris (Charles DeGaulle), France Los Angeles, CA
Scheduled Time: 1:35 PM, Dec 30 4:05 PM, Dec 30
Actual Time: 3:29 PM, Dec 30 5:47 PM, Dec 30 (Estimated)
Status: In air at an altitude of 37000 feet and ground speed of 477 KTS
Equipment: B744
 
All times listed above are local times unless otherwise stated.

Probably just a coincidence that the image doesn't display right now but I'm going to take a shower just in case.


201 posted on 12/30/2003 4:28:38 PM PST by McGruff (President Bush sends his regards.)
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Your post just refered to on the Steve Quail shortwave radio show 3210 Khz WWCR or you can here him on the net.
230 posted on 12/30/2003 4:39:00 PM PST by eternity (From here to...)
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Out of curiosity....

Those direct flights usually come in from the north-east, taking a course that leads them roughly over Denver, Vegas, then in.

So.... why would they be hanging out west of LAX and refueling at sea, unless maybe their primary focus is Mexicana?

245 posted on 12/30/2003 4:43:19 PM PST by ArmstedFragg
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Here's a link:

fboweb

247 posted on 12/30/2003 4:43:35 PM PST by PermaRag
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France, Mexico Put Armed Guards in Flight Undercover Even Before U.S. Directive

http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=8403

PARIS Dec. 30 — Members of France's elite intervention squad are already riding undercover on some trans-Atlantic flights, while a continent away, Mexican security agents also began boarding planes before a new U.S. directive to foil foreign terrorists.

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If this is a "high risk" flight, as it was expected to be, one would think they do have armed marshall's on the flight. So then, why scramble the fighters, unless the terrorist is the pilot and the marshalls can't break through the cockpit door. There were several articles about AQ actually being foreign commercial airline pilots for foreign airlines.
252 posted on 12/30/2003 4:44:46 PM PST by FairOpinion
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Two questions if you don't mind...
1-What kind of scanner do you have?
and
2-What kind of scanner do you wish you had?
I am in the market for one.
289 posted on 12/30/2003 4:55:10 PM PST by DefCon
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Norad was tracking Santa a few nights ago as well,,,, does this real mean anything??! :)
358 posted on 12/30/2003 5:11:19 PM PST by CharlotteVRWC
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