NORAD intercepting Air France 68 now (plane has landed without incident)

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[BurbankKarl]

if you have a good scanner in So Cal, tune to 271.0, set it in AM mode and listen to Norad intercept Air France flight 68, due at LAX 515pm

two F16s from AZ current refueling off Pacific

[Spok]

SOB=Souls on Board

Then that wouldn't count Frenchmen???

[Quix]

Must be.

I doubt the Viking Kittens would get on a

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Catapult.

[Central Scrutiniser]

Not definate. I worked for the airlines for years, this flight is late, they most likely asked for a better routing to deal with headwinds (headwinds normally go west to east) it happens all the time. As for the flight path it can be a different flight path because of the different time of take off and the amount of traffic coming into LAX. Lots of flights come in LAX at this time, its part of a time banking. Most of the flights across the pacific leave LAX from 7-10 pm, (SYD, TPE, NRT, AUK, HKG) as well as many flights to Europe. There is a whole bunch of feeder traffic that comes in about now.

[MrsEmmaPeel]

[ArmstedFragg]

Out of curiosity....

Those direct flights usually come in from the north-east, taking a course that leads them roughly over Denver, Vegas, then in.

So.... why would they be hanging out west of LAX and refueling at sea, unless maybe their primary focus is Mexicana?

[CatoRenasci]

THNX

[PermaRag]

Here's a link:

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[Viking2002]

Tell him to p!ss on a spark plug if it'll get him any answers to all of this........

[Central Scrutiniser]

CDG is the 3 letter code for Paris Charles DeGualle airport. The other large Int'l airport in Paris is Orly (ORY).

[Finalapproach29er]

Pres. has delegated authority to a two-star general if there is no time to contact him.

[eternity]

He is on the air now. Someone passed the info to him via e-mail I suppose. Try http://www.stevequayle.com

[FairOpinion]

France, Mexico Put Armed Guards in Flight Undercover Even Before U.S. Directive

http://www.phxnews.com/fullstory.php?article=8403

PARIS Dec. 30 — Members of France's elite intervention squad are already riding undercover on some trans-Atlantic flights, while a continent away, Mexican security agents also began boarding planes before a new U.S. directive to foil foreign terrorists.

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If this is a "high risk" flight, as it was expected to be, one would think they do have armed marshall's on the flight. So then, why scramble the fighters, unless the terrorist is the pilot and the marshalls can't break through the cockpit door. There were several articles about AQ actually being foreign commercial airline pilots for foreign airlines.

[Aeronaut]

FAR part 135, FAA regs., I believe

Air Franse would be flying under FAR part 121.

[bootless]

Stop that!

[Viking2002]

Hey - that guy owes me money! ;-)

[CatoRenasci]

THNX

[Central Scrutiniser]

If you notice the map, there is lots of weather around Las Vegas (LAS) and over the mountains into LAX, most likely, they anticipated this and asked for a better routing hours ago that misses most of that and allows them to make up some time lost from the late departure.

[railsplitter]

IMHO, crashing into a high value target with a big jet will loosen a far greater breadth of panic upon the states, than blowing up said jet over the vast expanses of the west. What the terrorists accomplished on 9-11 with fuel laden jets (from their perspective) created a yearning hunger for more death and destruction and only whetted their evil appetites.

[safisoft]

Fuel + alternate airport + 90 min extra fuel FAR part 135, FAA regs., I believe

Part 135 is for airtaxi - small airplane stuff. Also, it is destination + alternate + 45 minutes.

Domestic flights operate under FAR 121.

Flag carriers (i.e. international flights) operate under flag rules which uses percentages, not minutes for alternate fuel.

[Momaw Nadon]