Portland, [OR.] metro area braces for deep freeze [Willamette Valley also]

KGW.com ^ | 12-29-03 | ABE ESTIMADA and JIM PARKER

[rogator]

Bright and sunny on the Oregon north coast. Went swimming in the morning, hunting in the afternoon. Cool enough for a sweater but didn't put on a jacket all day.

[Clinging Bitterly]

Snow started coming down in earnest and sticking real good here in Eugene at about 8:30 this morning. Did have to make a drive to Valley River Center about that time because one of the girls worked out there and was chicken to drive in it.

And yeah it was pretty slick in spots, but it was pretty much melted by early afternoon. From here the only snow I see is on the girl's unused car right outside the window. All the snow on the ground (and roads) has pretty much melted, and has now re-frozen as plain old ice.

We almost always have to deal with that for the day or two after a snow. Just ice and frozen slush. All the treachery of snow with the fun ripped out of it.
Damn.

[FBD]

"All the treachery of snow with the fun ripped out of it."

Huh. That about says it all, Dave!

[FBD]

It took me over 4 hours to get over Hwy 26 Mt Hood, on Sunday. Absolute bumper to bumper lunacy.

TX for the ping.

[blackie]

I have a 7:15AM appointment this morning with the COPD (6 hour session ~ part of a 10 week clinical study) coordinator this morning ~ the snow is still on the ground here in Eugene ~ it's 27° F, icy and the trip is 8 miles each way.

But you know me ~ I love a challenge.

Wheeeeeee! :):)

[blackie]

The pickup looks the same this morning ~ I'll be firing it up in a few minutes. :):)

[uglybiker]

What? You ain't takin' the bike? ;-)

[B Knotts]

East or west of Hoodriver?

West. I'm not too far from Bridal Veil.

What version of Linux do you use?

Debian. Installing it is not for the uninitiated, but I like it because it's easy to keep up to date. Even version upgrades are as simple as apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade.

I use KDE 3.1.4 at home, but at work I'm using 3.2 Beta 2, which is really nice (and much more usable/stable than Beta 1).

[CyberCowboy777]

I downloaded a copy of Fedora to play with..been talking with a couple of guy here about Linux for the past few weeks.

Been in the industry for 8 years and still have not installed a copy of Linux... other than a FreeBSD box. lol

Thanks for the link.

[Clinging Bitterly]

>> That about says it all...

Yup.
I don't know how long you've been around here, but I think it was early in 1989 that we had the "arctic express" here.
It is the only time I remember the temperature dipping below zero here in the valley.

It all started with a snowfall, maybe just a couple inches, it started to melt, then the weather cleared up and it froze real hard, and it stayed that way for a couple of weeks. Where I worked, we had guys working in a warehouse that was partially finished, it had insulation but no heat, and in the mid day sun it was actually colder inside than outside, those guys were miserable.

All the highways stayed icy for days, no thawing at all, and the route to the coast from here was especially treacherous.

One day late in the event, when the high temperatures were getting up into the 20s, a small group of us headed to Florence because it was a bit warmer there, and we wanted to see snow on the beach. We hadn't seen snow on the beach since we had the big snow when I lived there in 1969.

All went well there, do driving mishaps (really, still very little traffic), but unbeknown to me, things were going bad at home. A came home to discover my folks had come to visit, and my mom seemed to be in a bit of a panic.

The panic was because a pipe running through one of the outside walls had burst, and the water spray had pierced the drywall and was spraying full blast right into the middle of the front room. The place was flooded, the whole place, water everywhere, water running out the front door.

I tried to shut off the water at the meter, but I had two problems with that. First, the meter was buried under a couple of inches of solid ice, and second, I wasn't altogether sure where the meter was. So I went back to the house and took an axe to the outside wall and busted out a section of siding, then grabbed the busted copper pipe and bent it around so it was spraying outside instead of inside, then went back to search for the meter. After some ice chipping I found a meter and shut it off, but it was the neighbor's. Went back and found the one next to it and shut it off and it was mine. Went back and pinched off the busted pipe so I could turn the water back on, then grabbed the yellow pages looking for someone to come out and help fix the huge mess.

Took a while, but I found a rug cleaning outfit that had a high powered extractor and the guy came out right away and rigged things up and sucked about a ton of water out of the carpeting, while a few of us spent the night with him jockeying around the furniture. Next day I found a contractor who came out and fixed the pipe, replaced the soaked insulation, and put new drywall & texture inside and new siding outside, all while I was at work for the day. Next day I came home from work and all had been painted to match and I couldn't tell anything had happened.

Never saw a bill for any of it. My friend Jim Walsh (since retired, and deservedly comfortable and healthy) was a good insurance agent. Helped me find those people to get all of that done - I know I could never expect that kind of service from the outfit that bought him out when he retired, they cater more to the corporate world these days, and my measly few hundred a year means nothing to them.

[blackie]

Hahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! :):):)

[sport]

There cannot be a freeze.

The great sage al gore and the environmentalists tell us that we have global warming.

There must be a mistake.

[jimtorr]

My brother, rontorr, lives about 1/2 mile west of I-5. He can see part of McNary Field from his back yard, so I guess that makes it pretty far south, in Salem. He said that there were only 5 inches of snow, and he never had a power outage.

We grew up in Eugene, and I never did get to Salem much. We went to Turner every summer, but even then never went on into Salem.

Rontorr went to Camp Adair, south of Salem, around noon, and a stretch of Hwy 99 was blocked by ODOT and PGE just north of there, so I suppose some trees took down power lines.

[Salvation]

And more snow!

Winter furious in southern Ore.

08:31 AM PST on Wednesday, December 31, 2003

By kgw.com and AP Staff A 150-mile stretch of Interstate-5 closed by a snowstorm is open again, but more snow is on the way.

Hundreds of drivers were trapped there Monday between Ashland and Northern California.

The National Weather Service on Wednesday issued a winter storm warning for the area and warned of more hazardous driving conditions on Interstate-5 across the Siskiyous.

The weather service forecast calls for between 20 and 30 inches to pile up on the Siskiyous in the next 48 hours.

Trucks stranded on I-5 on the Siskiyou Summit begin to move again. (KGW Photo)

“Snow is expected to increase significantly in intensity New Year’s Eve through New Year’s Day as a strong jet stream approaches, the weather service said.

The weather service also recommended that travelers crossing through the passes fill up their tanks and pack a storm kit that includes tire chains, booster cables, a flashlight, shovel, a bag of sand, blankets and extra clothing, water and a first aid kit.

The northbound lanes on Interstate 5 in the Siskiyous opened Monday afternoon to vehicles with chains; southbound lanes were reopened later that night. At that time, only commercial truck drivers were still stuck on the road, said Jared Castle, spokesman for the Oregon Department of Transportation.

"Some wanted to wait it out and we gave them the option," he said Tuesday. He did not know how many trucks were on the road when it reopened Monday night.

An estimated 250 to 500 vehicles were stranded when Siskiyou Pass was closed Sunday night, said John Vial, district manager for the Oregon Department of Transportation. Cars began to leave the area late Monday after spending a long, frigid night in their cars with little food or water.

Crews spent the day clearing roads, pulling cars out of snowbanks and shuttling supplies to the stuck drivers before leading them down the mountain pass Monday afternoon.

"We also gave motorists the option of abandoning vehicles and going to shelters. Some did that," Castle said. "Then we deployed pusher trucks to touch the vehicles and get cars going. Some of the snow drifts were 5 to 6 feet and it was slow going."

Volunteers used snowmobiles to bring food, gas and water to the drivers, most of whom carried no tire chains. Officials also delivered portable toilets to motorists.

Tow truck driver Kevin Wyatt spent the night digging out cars and trucks. "It's just been miserable," said Wyatt, his face smeared with soot. "They thought it was a light storm and it just came down super, super fast. After they got stuck we couldn't get up here fast enough. When it snows four inches in two minutes, you can't do nothing."

Snowdrifts between Ashland and Redding, Calif., reached 7 feet in some areas.

State Police on Tuesday identified the man who died of a heart attack near the summit while helping other drivers as George Englehardt, 72, of Florence.

"He was pushing cars out of snow banks." Castle said.

On the California side, stranded motorists were able to leave shortly after noon Monday, and there were no injuries or accidents to report, said Sgt. Don Jordan of the California Highway Patrol.

[DeSoto]

Global Warming Anti-Bump

Snow? Bah humbug!!

[Salvation]

No longer snowing here in northern Salem, but we got a couple inches this morning (maybe 3)??

[oreolady]

Still snowing in Vancouver, retired now, but remember all the idiots that will not slow down, especially the 4WD's-they think their rigs give them liscence to go normal speed and brake as usual.
Worse than the snow is the inversion-the weather changes back to normal wet, rainy, that's when it can ice up 3 or 4 inches,for a day or so, really TREACHEROUS DRIVING ON ICE!!!

[DeSoto]

We live in SE Salem. Not too far from the Joseph ST exit on Hwy 22. We have about 8 inches and it is still snowing. I am starting to worry about roof loads, I have a barn that is not constucted too well. I hope that it stops soon.

[Clinging Bitterly]

Got a bit more than we expected in Eugene too.
Don't know when it started, but we got up at 7:00 AM and it was coming down pretty good.

On the above ground surfaces we got a total a little better than 6 inches, then it started raining. Toppled a few trees around the neighborhood, but the power has stayed on at least. Not finding any local news on radio, sounds like everybody stayed home & put the stations on autopilot. While my favorite station was about halfway through Rush, it faded to silence. They've been broadcasting dead air at full power for about four hours now, and the only thing I can get with a weather report is KEX. Sounds like Portland is having fun.

[Salvation]

Hope your barn stands strong.

I will never forget the days of owning a flat topped child care center in Salem and getting up there to clean out the ice jams. Ugghhh!