The Anti-Father Police State

MensNewsDaily.com ^ | December 23, 2003 | Stephen Baskerville

[FormerACLUmember]

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[Orangedog]

Since the partisans declared war on the family, we should surrender, have no children from now one -- and as a result there will be no partisans due to the fact that there will be no people. That'll work.

What men have been doing for the past 30 years is about as close to surrender as you can get. Let's go further into the war analogy: What kind of army keeps fighting on a battlefield and with tactics that constantly gets their troups mowed-down again and again?. That is the kind of army that is bound and determined to lose. Working in todays political arena as a battlefield is a losing tactic. The numbers of people who either want us subjigated or just plain don't care are staggering. Trying to organize political revolt hasn't worked and will not work in this environment. A wise man chooses the battlefield and tactics that plays to his strengths. We have no strength in either party at any level or branch of government. We WILL continue to lose on that battlefield. What we have to do is choose tactics that play to our strengths. After examining the possibilities, the only logical alternative is stop feeding the monster. We need to cut off it's air supply and force it to deal on OUR terms. When the number of marriages drop and when the new number of support cases is no longer sufficient to replace the old cases, then the industry will face it's first truely serious threat to it's existence. As the years go on, the weaker the government agencies will become. Eventually it will starve. Then we will be in a position to dictate terms to it, just like it has been dictating terms to us. You can't negotiate with a cancer. You cannot coexist with a cancer. It MUST be eliminated or it will kill you. Often the course of treatment puts that patient's life in jeopardy, but not taking that course will always result in death of that patient.

[JudgemAll]

What really beats me is when I see male cops zealously crying for horrible women and giving dirty looks to men as a result. I dont get it, these are male cops who could be affected too. Why do they go along with the bias? Why do they hear, see and speak no evil in courts? They are the ones with the first hand experience of the travesty.

[JudgemAll]

What men have been doing for the past 30 years is about as close to surrender as you can get.

Yep, you can say that too. Look at affirmative action benefiting women, for example. Yet go to any prosecution's office and it will crawl with feminazies and little men. As a man stepping in there to complain, it feels like a black is stepping in a KKK dominated prosecution's office. There is overt discrimination in the appointments of social workers and prosecutors and now even cops, but no one is speaking up.

[JudgemAll]

It's true that men are more valuable than ever.

However perceptions point to the opposite. It used to be that having things like unrivaled nuke strength meant peace from a rioting terroristic world... yet, what do we do, we keep disarming because we fear hurting bad people. We all look for alibis to be alive and accepted instead of taking action regardless.

The current soft thinking in the US hates the concept of authoritative man. It's not marketable. It's too"bloody", too inconveniencing, too pointing at cowardice and too brave.

Also, as the author points out, companies like WalMart make a killing in low wage male labor as a result of these stupid laws. It sure brings little revenues to have legally castrated men walk around, but they dont care because when companies where you work hard seem to provide you more care than a family would, the economy roars alongside, at least for a while.

It is irony that Islam is despised for its treatment of women, yet sometimes one wonders if a feminized talibanism is any better. I personaly think that a feminized talibanism is worse in the long run.

In any case, no society last very long as a civilization when restrictions become so arbitrary as to kill any will or ability to accomplish. Islam started by liberating men, their skills and their libidos from very restrictive and castrating forms of worships then. Later Islam sunk because it became negative. A freedom vacuum was filled in with despots.

The same thing can be said of the US in some ways.

[FLAMING DEATH]

Men ARE becoming more valuable than ever. When we're appreciated as such, and society RECOGNIZES that value, instead of punishing it, that's when I'll start dating again.

Let me tell you a little story. I went out on a limb to date a girl who already had a kid. The boy called me "dad", because I was really the only father figure he ever had. Well, she decided to split one day (I had fifteen minutes notice on this one). Now, I have no recourse to see him, despite the fact that I was effectively his father for a year and a half and loved him and cared for him like he was my own. Only later did I learn that if she had wanted to, his mother could have sought child support from me, and probably have gotten it, even though I wasn't his biological father.

I can only imagine how much worse that heartbreak could have been had the boy been my child, and I had been with him since birth. It was hard enough the way it was. That woke me up. Our society doesn't value fathers. It values monetary providers, and virtually any guy can be reduced to that at the drop of a hat, if you fall out of favor with Mommy. It certainly isn't worth the risk.

I don't wanna be a provider for kids I never get to see, so I'm doing the responsible thing and not making any. There ya go.

And I'm not walking around as if nothing changed. If I were, I'd probably have already been married and divorced by now. Believe me, I came close before I realized all of this...and I thank my lucky stars every day that it never worked out.

[FLAMING DEATH]

Tell it on the mountain.

[Orangedog]

Only later did I learn that if she had wanted to, his mother could have sought child support from me, and probably have gotten it, even though I wasn't his biological father.

Sounds like the same kind of idiotic laws I've heard about in Washington state, where just dating a woman with kids from another guy puts you on the hook.

For the life of me, I can't understand why men who hear about or have seen first hand the abuses going on and still think it can't happen to them. More than 50% of marriages end in divorce, and rare is the case where the man doesn't get reemed in the process. Picture this: someone comes up to a guy and the street and offers a wager on a coin toss. Heads, and he gets to go on with his life like nothing happened. Tails, he loses half, if not more, of everything he has worked for, a good chunk of his earnings in the future (which he must pay under threat of criminal sanction) and suffer emotional losses that no amount of money can ever replace. Most men that wouldn't punch the person offering that bet in the nose would laugh and walk away from such a sucker-bet. But every year, millions of men take that bet. Just as entertaining are the others who will mock and scoff at those who are smart enough not to gamble in that casino.

[RogerFGay]

That won't work. Politicians will continue to get lots of women pregnant and they'll continue the policy of forcing other men at random to provide financial support for them. That'll create an entire new generation exclusively from the politician gene pool. It'll be like the end of Hitchhikers' guide to the galaxy when the accountants are all that's left.

[RogerFGay]

The media has been calling the random male role model "father" for a long time now. One of my articles mentions that every time a man abuses a child, the media labels him "father." And yes, they often do assign paternity for the purpose of ordering child support to men who are not fathers. There are a lot of guys who can't get such orders turned off even though they've proven non-paternity through DNA tests.

[RogerFGay]

What male cops are you talking about?

[FLAMING DEATH]

Heads, and he gets to go on with his life like nothing happened. Tails, he loses half, if not more, of everything he has worked for, a good chunk of his earnings in the future (which he must pay under threat of criminal sanction) and suffer emotional losses that no amount of money can ever replace. Most men that wouldn't punch the person offering that bet in the nose would laugh and walk away from such a sucker-bet. But every year, millions of men take that bet. Just as entertaining are the others who will mock and scoff at those who are smart enough not to gamble in that casino.

Good analogy. Like I said, people unthinkingly take risks with their relationships that they'd feel foolish taking with their personal finances. And, you're right about the "scoffers"; some of my best friends try to make me feel foolish for being cautious. It amazes me. But, they're free to do as they wish. I'm always there to buy up their guns and other toys that their wives invariably make them get rid of when they get married. Of course, after the divorce, I always offer to sell them back at a slight markup...;)

[Way2Serious]

"...companies like WalMart make a killing in low wage male labor as a result of these stupid laws. "

A month or so ago, I heard something over a WalMArt public address system...

"All male employees please report to the parking lot for cart duty."

It was raining like hell outside, and freezing. It's really true. There is still one group that it's legal, even encouraged, to discriminate against.