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To: Protagoras
"Now you use that as an excuse to join the plunder in order to make your self whole."

Plunder? In order to make myself whole?

If I was going to "plunder" someone, I'd make sure that my plunder was more than $155 per month (our ENTIRE monthly grocery budget). Can YOU live and eat on 155 bucks a month.

I'm already a "whole" person, friend. I've accepted Jesus Christ as my Saviour, and I have the unconditional love of a good woman. Is it your contention that those who have been struck by disability are no longer complete human beings?

If it is, and you are someday disabled yourself, I hope for your sake that we've grown as a people beyond such sentiments ...
41 posted on 12/19/2003 8:52:10 AM PST by Stephen Ritter
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To: Stephen Ritter
You were complaining that you "contributed" to the system and were going to get back out what you could. I didn't make that up. I merely said you perceived it different than I.

Taking property from one person and giving it to someone else to whom it does not rightfully belong, is immoral.

Is it your contention that those who have been struck by disability are no longer complete human beings?

Are you still beating your wife? Is it your contention that pedophilia is OK? These are the same despicable straw-men you just used on me. I take it you don't like it any more than I did.

If it is, and you are someday disabled yourself, I hope for your sake that we've grown as a people beyond such sentiments ...

This is pathetic.

45 posted on 12/19/2003 9:04:21 AM PST by Protagoras (Hating Democrats doesn't make you a conservative.)
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To: Stephen Ritter
If I was going to "plunder" someone, I'd make sure that my plunder was more than $155 per month (our ENTIRE monthly grocery budget). Can YOU live and eat on 155 bucks a month.

Now you're griping that you don't get ENOUGH of our money???.

You are unbelievable!

54 posted on 12/19/2003 10:08:43 AM PST by Jotmo ("Voon", said the mattress.)
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To: Stephen Ritter
I feed a family of 6 with $300 a month.

You have NOTHING to gripe about!

55 posted on 12/19/2003 10:13:30 AM PST by Jotmo ("Voon", said the mattress.)
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To: Stephen Ritter
I'm truly sorry for your situation as I would be for anyone.

But your attitude sucks!

56 posted on 12/19/2003 10:16:17 AM PST by Jotmo ("Voon", said the mattress.)
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To: Stephen Ritter
If it is, and you are someday disabled yourself, I hope for your sake that we've grown as a people beyond such sentiments ...

Are there no prisons? And the Union workhouses? Are they still in operation? The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?

81 posted on 12/20/2003 5:26:47 AM PST by Lazamataz (Posted by SarcastoTron version 1.2 (c) 2001. All rights reserved.)
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To: Stephen Ritter
Setting aside the question of whether these programs are legal, I think that most on this forum would agree that if these programs are in place, they should be providing funds to the truly needy or ill, not the long-term layabout. You sound like the kind of person who was struck with a sudden, devastating illness that makes it impossible to work and I would not begrudge you the assistance. You've clouded the situation somewhat in my mind by taking your wife out of the discussion. Either she's got a legitimate disability, in which case see above, or she's got a bogus disability (alcoholism, drug abuse, etc.) in which case my thoughts on the issue would change.

As for whether the government that hands you money can tell you what to spend it on, I say they can. They do it to businesses all the time, including telling them the race and sex of the people they have to hire to perform a government project. Don't like it, don't participate. It would be easy enough to program cash registers with foods that are Food Stamp eligible or ineligible.
99 posted on 12/20/2003 9:05:44 AM PST by republicofdavis
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To: Stephen Ritter
AFTER YOU AND YOUR WIFE WORKED FOR 30 YEARS, YOU HAD NO SAVINGS TO GET BY ON?

I use my own money to get by.
114 posted on 12/20/2003 11:31:41 AM PST by At _War_With_Liberals
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