(3-judge panel, 9th Circuit) Rules ALL GITMO detainees must have access to an attorney

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[Dog]

AP via Fox news alert..

Lord help us from the judges..

[T. P. Pole]

How does the 9th circuit even have jurisdiction to make a ruling in this case?

That was my first question, too. Anybody know?

[stevem]

It's time for this thought to start circulating like wildfire. Courts that come up with goofy rulings need to be ignored. There need not be any appeals etc. Just simply ignore them.

[Dog]

OMG......not REINHARDT!

He is the biggest leftist in the world!!

[Puppage]

THIS, WILL MAKE AMERICA SAFER

[KantianBurke]

Andrew Jackson I believe

[July 4th]

Yeah, just checked the opinion. He wrote it. If there is any judge in this country who warrants impeachment, it's him. (And yes, I am taking into account the Supreme Court).

[jerod]

said the same thing about Campaign finance reform

Ya, but as turns out, that Campaign Finance Reform is good for the Republicans and bad for the DemocRATs. Why change it when it's screwing the Dems.

Besides, a day will come when that will be over-ruled. It all depends on the Lawyers and their arguments, and in the case brought forth in an attempt to over-rule it they didn't do their job properly.

[Peach]

For all Freepers who are disappointed in some domestic programs the president has signed, PLEASE remember that without judicial reform, we will continue to be subject to this kind of decision by liberal judges.

Getting President Bush's judges confirmed is the single most important domestic issue, IMO.

[Mo1]

And what do the cable channels talk about

The Bleeping Michael Jackson Case .. Good Grief

[rintense]

More than unbelievable- they are treasonous. Does their ruling violate the Patriot Act? Where does the PA fit into this ruling? I can't believe that my tax dollars will go to help defend these terrorists...

[Puppage]

but as turns out, that Campaign Finance Reform is good for the Republicans and bad for the DemocRATs

Are you insane?

[Houmatt]

I am so appalled by this ruling I am left completely and utterly sppechless.

[Normal4me]

Lawyers trying to enter the base (Gitmo)will be considered fair targets and deadly force will be used.

[Pikamax]

Court: Terror Suspects Must Get Lawyers
3 minutes ago Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo!
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&e=3&u=/ap/20031218/ap_on_re_us/guantanamo_prisoners

By DAVID KRAVETS, Associated Press Writer

SAN FRANCISCO - A federal appeals court ruled Thursday for the first time that prisoners held at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base in Cuba should have access to lawyers and the American court system.


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The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals (news - web sites)' 2-1 decision was a rebuke to the Bush Administration.


The administration maintains that because the 660 men held there were picked up overseas on suspicion of terrorism and are being held on foreign land, they may be detained indefinitely without charges or trial.


The Supreme Court last month agreed to decide whether the detainees, picked up in Afghanistan and Pakistan, should have access to the courts. The justices agreed to hear that case after the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia ruled that the prisoners had no rights to the American legal system.


The San Francisco appeals court, ruling Thursday on a petition from a relative of a Libyan the U.S. military captured in Afghanistan, said the Bush administration's indefinite detention of the men runs contrary to American ideals.


"Even in times of national emergency — indeed, particularly in such times — it is the obligation of the Judicial Branch to ensure the preservation of our constitutional values and to prevent the Executive Branch from running roughshod over the rights of citizens and aliens alike," Judge Stephen Reinhardt wrote for the majority.


"We cannot simply accept the government's position," Reinhardt continued, "that the Executive Branch possesses the unchecked authority to imprison indefinitely any persons, foreign citizens included, on territory under the sole jurisdiction and control of the United States, without permitting such prisoners recourse of any kind to any judicial forum, or even access to counsel, regardless of the length or manner of their confinement."

[Guillermo]

Andrew Jackson

[microgood]

Hopefully Bush will just ignore the ruling and not even respond to it or appeal it. Since they have no jurisdiction it is a non-ruling.

[Frank_Discussion]

One CAN Dream can't one?

OK, here's the tinfoil: Does this look like coup to anyone else? I mean, this is unconscionable, beyond reason, without logic - unless your logic computes a downfall here at home.

[oceanview]

they are just making this stuff up as they go along anyway, do you really think they would give any credence to "jurisdiction"?

[hankbrown]

From the decision notes: The Honorable Milton I. Shadur, Senior United States District Judge for the
Northern District of Illinois, sitting by designation.

[rintense]

Can anyone tell me if this ruling defies the Patriot Act? If so, then doesn't that mean these judges are overturning the will of the people, since it was Congress (who represents the people) that passed the Patriot Act?