Dad Takes Religion a Bit Too Seriously

Religion in the News ^ | 5 December 2003 | Mister Thorne

[LyricalReckoner]

In Muslim countries – I mean countries where they go by the the clerics rule – you can get away with murder. Literally. You can kill your daughter if you think it will improve your standing in the community.

But England is not a Muslim country and it’s not easy to get away with murder there.

Consider the case of Heshu Yones, a 16-year-old girl who was stabbed to death by her father, Abdallah. (The Yones’ emigrated to England from Iraq. Kurds, they fled Saddam Hussein’s reign of terror).

Why did her father kill his daughter? Because he believed she was having sex with her boyfriend. Someone sent Abdallah a letter accusing Heshu of acting like a whore. So, he decided to kill her for the sake of his honor.

A spokesman for the police cautioned Muslims about religiously-inspired murder: “Violence in the name of culture will not be tolerated. Murder in the name of honor will be punished by the severest penalties available in law.”

Abdallah was sentenced to life in prison.

[r9etb]

You're being wilfully blind.

[thinktwice]

Might I remind you that Joseph Stalin, Adolph Hitler, Mao Ze Dung, Fidel Castro, Saddam Hussein, Hafez alAssad, Papa Doc Duvalier, Benito Mussilini, and Pol Pot won out without any serious opposition coming from religions.

Dictators win out over mindlessness using force, whereas peaceful thinkers -- might -- defeat mindlessness with reason if they can survive dictatorial and/or religious oppression.

[thinktwice]

What a stupid, bigoted comment.

Have you looked up the word "bigot" lately?

"1. a person who holds blindly and intolerantly to a particular creed, opinion, etc.
"2. a narrow minded person.

Mindless ...

[Walkin Man]

Yeah, thank...Darwin...for kind, gentle rational souls like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Pol Pot, Castro...etc.

[r9etb]

Have you looked up the word "bigot" lately?

"1. a person who holds blindly and intolerantly to a particular creed, opinion, etc.

"2. a narrow minded person.

Why yes -- that's exactly what I had in mind. Surely you can see how that definition applies to your stupid, bigoted statement.

[r9etb]

Dictators win out over mindlessness using force, whereas peaceful thinkers -- might -- defeat mindlessness with reason if they can survive dictatorial and/or religious oppression.

So if the dictators win, they're right. Right?

And if not, please tell us why not. In your own words, please -- Ayn Rand's are demonstrably unequal to the task.

[thinktwice]

You've given up on dialogue and reverted to personal attack ...

Happy holidays.

[aruanan]

Why did her father kill his daughter? Because he believed she was having sex with her boyfriend. Someone sent Abdallah a letter accusing Heshu of acting like a whore. So, he decided to kill her for the sake of his honor.

As someone once observed, many Middle Eastern Muslim men are certifiably insane. Of course, that's just our point of view since in his mind he was entirely right about taking the life of his daughter because of his honor.

[aruanan]

Dad Takes Religion a Bit Too Seriously

Actually the title is wrong. It should read, Dad Takes Himself a Bit Too Seriously.

[r9etb]

You've given up on dialogue and reverted to personal attack ...

LOL!!! That's rich, coming from the guy who said "The end products of religious philosophical indoctrination are fervent adults acting mindlessly...."

I notice, BTW, that you've still not addressed any of my statements concerning logical difficulties with Rand's philosophy. Am I to take it that you agree with me?