[go_tom]

McClintock hit this one out of the ballpark.

[gubamyster]

ping

[Andyman]

The nation's poorest borders . . .

Perchance it should be porous?

[Sabertooth]

DOBBS: Senator Cedillo, this law has been overturned. What is the next step? Is there a deal in the works between you and your supporters and Governor Schwarzenegger?

STATE SEN. GIL CEDILLO (D), CALIFORNIA: Yes. We're working very constructively with the governor, looking forward to craft a bill that will ensure that we have safe highways for all of California.

Oh.

Governor Schwarzeneggar and company say there's no deal.

If, however, the Governor is "working very constructively" with Cedillo and the Illegal Alien CDL lobby "to craft a bill that will ensure that we have safe highways for all of California," what's the difference?

[whinecountry]

Saw this last night. Funny to watch Cedillo, who seemed oblivious to the fact that Tom clocked him.

[skeeter]

I'm glad there's at least one politician in this state to offer the morally correct argument in this debate. Thanks, Tom.

[Prime Choice]

MCCLINTOCK: Well, with all due respect, that's a specious argument. California already accepts a valid foreign driver's license as proof of competence to operate a motor vehicle in California. So this is not a safety issue.

It's not an insurance issue either. A foreign national can obtain insurance in their own country with extend coverage into the United States.

There's one purpose of this measure and only one purpose. It's to place valid state identification documents in the hands of illegal immigrants. And the only reason for doing that is to undermine the enforcement of our immigration laws.

*WHACK* And it's goinggg...goinggggg....GONE! He knocked that one right outta the ballpark, Marv! (And the crowd is on its feet! *yahhhhhhhh!*)

[Sabertooth]

MCCLINTOCK: You talk about compliance with our laws. Illegal immigrants are here in direct defiance of the most fundamental of our laws, our immigration laws.

The United States has the most open immigration policy of any nation in the world. There are millions of people who are waiting in line to legally become American citizens and are willing to abide by our immigration laws to do so.

Illegal immigration is the process of people cutting in front of these folks in line. I don't believe that kind of behavior should be rewarded. And when you talk about people who ought to comply with our laws, you're talking about people who are deliberately violating our laws to be here in the first place.

CEDILLO: I understand that, Senator. But you also -- and that's probably an argument you're going to have to take up with the head of homeland security, Mr. Ridge, who has argued that perhaps there is eight to 12 million people we should legalize.

Who does Ridge work for?

[Sabertooth]

DOBBS: Gentlemen -- Gentlemen, if I may just interject with one thing. Seventy percent of the people of California, gentlemen, in the most recent polls, just about 70 percent, almost 70 percent, said they don't want this, period. Driver's licenses for illegal aliens.

How do you respond to them? And it was one of the principle issues in Governor Schwarzenegger's campaign. How do you respond to them?

CEDILLO: Well, we respond to them like we did, Lou, is we went -- And I personally was one of the co-authors of the recall in a bipartisan effort, working with the governor, we repealed SB-60. I was the author of that bill and worked with on it for five years.

We've listened to the people. We've listened to what their concerns are. And with the governor, and I imagine in a bipartisan manner, we are going to propose new legislation that will address the concerns that were raised during the debates and during the floor debates and come back with legislation shortly in January that will address those concerns. And also address the concerns of 22 million motorists to make sure that our highways are safe and secure.

It's too bad Governor Schwarzenegger won't put this to rest.

[spodefly]

If California was not already completely infested with idiots, this would have been an interview with Sen. Cedillo and GOVERNOR McClintock ... but I digress.

[elbucko]

..."to make sure that our highways are safe and secure."

Gil Cedillo is a good little socialist. He repeated this lie five different times during this interview in order for it to be perceived as truth. However..

McClintock nails the real reason for Cedillo's position:"By giving these licenses to people who are in this country illegally, you have just destroyed the value of the driver's license as authentic proof of legal residency for every one of the millions of California drivers who currently hold one."

And, I might add, the next step will be for illegal immigrants to vote (for Democrats) in state elections. Habla Espanol?

[ought-six]

Cedillo is a La Raza enabler of the worst sort. He would be dead set against giving illegals driver's licenses if the illegals were from Southeast Asia. Cedillo's proposal is all for Mexicans, pure and simple. His allegiance is to Mexicans, not to Americans.

[mvpel]

I can tell he took Cedillo out behind the woodshed on this one just from reading the transcript, which is not always the case in discussions like this. I'm glad I voted for that man, it's a shame he's not now California's governor.

[Pa' fuera]

Every Californian has a right to know, in a state where you are 22 million motorists taking to the highways every day, that we, the elected officials are doing everything we can to make sure that the highways are safe, that all motorists are licensed, tested and insured.

I know my elected officials are doing nothing about the thousands of Mexican drivers who cross the border in Tijuana and Mexicali into San Diego and Imperial counties every day, who don't comply with California emissions, don't have insurance, don't have California drivers licenses, and, in many cases, are driving very unsafe vehicles. The common theme persists - placating Mexicans.

[Pa' fuera]

Senator McClintock said that any illegal alien, any resident of another nation is entitled to get a driver's license in their country and have it recognized in the state of California. Is that true or is it not?

DOBBS: But, wait, Senator if I may, it may be beside the point but I just want to understand the veracity of the statement first, and then we can go to the issue of its relevance. Is it true, or is it not?

CEDILLO: I don't believe that's true. I don't believe that's accurate.

Of course, Gilberto is lying here. He knows the illegals can get licenses in their own country. As a practical matter, though, if they go back to Mexico to get their licenses, they won't be let back into the country.

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

Ping
Former La MEChA member Senator Cedio debates McClintock

(Guess who won)

[B Knotts]

Tom McClintock is exactly right, as usual.

There can be no reasonable argument for licensing illegals "with a background check," as any background check is going to show that they are in the U.S. illegally.

No licenses for illegals, period.

[henderson field]

Yes, McClintock gave a very well-reasoned argument. I can't see how people can call him extreme. It was straight up the middle and Cedillo was lying. Why do the Californians want a liar to represent them? When I went to Europe several times, to most of the countries there, I first obtained an international driver's license, based on my Ohio license. Then I bought insurance through the company that I was buying the car from. The license and the insurance were accepted everywhere except Russia, where I had to buy extra insurance as a little shakedown by the communists. I did not use my international license to vote in foreign countries, or to get benefits that should be accorded only to the taxpaying citizens of those countries, and that's the way it should be.

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

Our friend Lou Dobbs is right on this issue again, (so is Tom McClintock as always) thought you'd enjoy this.

[Republicus2001]

yep that is the supreme question - shout it out

WHY DON'T THEY USE THEIR OWN REAL LICENSES FROM MEXICO?

THEY ARE PERFECTLY LEGAL HERE!!!

[Uncle Hal]

I think Tom is right, legal aliens and visitors can use their license from their native land so long as they meet all the requirements of the respective states. I am sure there must be a time limit as to how long the foreign license would be valid.