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To: CSM
Health issues, chemical reactions, sickness from tobacco smoke has nothing to do with Christianity. You are again twisting the arguement from a health issue to so many other topics, it is becomeing a real apparent strecch on your part.

I will suffice it to say I am a Christian, who cares about the health of others in publically licensed places who do not provide seperate ventillated rooms for the purpose of sucking tobacco smoke.

Trying to demonize this position, by you or anyone else will look a lot like how the dems pose an argument, off subject and stretching.

I oppose government control in most areas, but the concern for the health of others in public places, does not make one a follower of Hegel and Marx.

Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, and lest we forget those Baptist Christians who condemn smoking all together, whose side are they on?

Ops4 God Bless America!

75 posted on 12/16/2003 8:41:55 AM PST by OPS4
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To: OPS4
So you believe in the majority rules democracy when it is convenient for you. I see now, that using the majority rules democracy argument for other issues means that I am twisting an issue.

You need to decide. Are you for rule of the majority or not. If you are for regulation of private property (i.e. smoking bans) through the rule of the majority, then you must support the majority's decision regarding other issues. You can not pick and chose.

This is not a health issue. It is a control issue. SHS does not cause any health problems. It may aggravate an already existing problem, but the individual with that health problem is not forced into any restaurant or bar. If they enter one and see that smoking is taking place, or there is to much smoke, they are free to leave at any time. No one locks the door shut and guards the door to keep an asthmatic in a restaurant.

Trying to equate me with the dems is a low down statement, and you know that and did it anyway. What does that say about you?

You can not be against government control in some areas and for it in others. That just means that you want the government to dictate the rest of the citizens to your preferences. If you appreciate individual rights, then you must support them for all people.....

The baptists condemn all sorts of behavior. I support them being able to make those individual decisions. No one is forced to join any denomination that they do not agree with.

Let me summarize my questions that you failed to address:
1) Do you agree with eminant domain confiscation of private property to build shopping malls?
2) Do you believe that we live in a democracy, rather than a republic?
3) Do you think that the current health code for restaruants actually works?
4) What if a nationwide vote resulted in requiring all restaurants and bars to allow smoking?
5) What would be an acceptable level of ETS?
6) Should we ban peanuts and shellfish in the name of public health?

Before you come back with the "your twisting this issue and trying to confuse it with other issues" response, how about admitting that any trampling of individual rights is wrong?
79 posted on 12/16/2003 9:13:06 AM PST by CSM (Councilmember Carol Schwartz (R.-at large), my new hero! The Anti anti Smoke Gnatzie!)
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