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The Supreme Court Allows Arrests of All in Drug Stops (PoliceState)
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| Dec 15,2003
| GINA HOLLAND
Posted on 12/15/2003 2:17:27 PM PST by ask
Court Allows Arrests of All in Drug Stops
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Supreme Court issued a traffic warning Monday: Beware of whom you ride with. If drugs are found in a vehicle, all occupants can be arrested, the justices said in a unanimous decision.
It was a victory for Maryland and 20 other states that argued police frequently find drugs in traffic stops but no one in the vehicle claims them. The court gave officers the go-ahead to arrest everyone.
In a small space like a car, an officer could reasonably infer "a common enterprise" among a driver and passengers, the justices ruled.
The case stemmed from an incident in 1999, when police in the Baltimore suburbs pulled over a speeding car. A search revealed a roll of cash in the glove compartment and cocaine in an armrest in the back seat.
The driver and the two passengers denied having anything to do with the contraband, so all three men were arrested.
Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, writing for the court, said police had probable cause to suspect that the drugs belonged to any of the three, or all of them.
Lisa Kemler, a criminal defense attorney from Alexandria, Va., said the court seems to be saying: "know who your company is."
"How many times have you gotten a ride with a friend? Are you going to peer around in their glove compartment?" asked Kemler, who fears the ruling will lead to a police dragnet. "You could find probable cause to arrest everybody."
Michael Rushford, president of the Criminal Justice Legal Foundation, a pro-law enforcement group, said police can't be expected to sort out ownership of drugs or guns in the middle of a traffic stop.
"You certainly wouldn't let three people with Uzis in their car leave because no one would admit the uzis were theirs," he said.
Maryland's highest court had thrown out the conviction of a passenger in the car, Joseph Jermaine Pringle, on grounds that his arrest violated the Constitution's Fourth Amendment ban on unreasonable searches or seizures. The Supreme Court reversed that decision.
"Pringle's attempt to characterize this case as a guilt-by-associaton case is unavailing," Rehnquist wrote in the brief decision.
Pringle told police later that the drugs were his and that he had planned to swap them for sex or money at a party. His 10-year prison sentence will be reinstated.
The American Civil Liberties Union and National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers filed a brief supporting Pringle. Their lawyer said the ruling will sweep innocent passengers into criminal cases.
"There's nothing in this opinion to prevent a police officer from arresting a graduate student who is offered a ride home late at night from a party that she has attended with some fellow students," said Tracey Maclin, a Boston University law professor.
The court's rationale could be used in other police search cases, involving homes, Maclin said.
The ruling dealt with the discovery of drugs and cash, but it could apply to other contraband as well.
Supporting Maryland in the case were the Bush administration, along with Alabama, Alaska, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawaii, Illinois, Louisiana, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah, Virginia, West Virginia, and Puerto Rico.
The case is Maryland v. Pringle, 02-809.
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To: yonif
Yep. The Maryland case that the SCOTUS UNANIMOUSLY OVERRULED was a complete outlier with the overwhelming majority of American cases on the subject for the entire history of the Republic. People forget that arrest does not equal conviction. Finding "probable cause" to arrest requires less than "beyond a reasonable doubt" to convict and less than even a preponderance of evidence in civil cases. Moreover, IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN THIS WAY.
Everyone should just chill and think about it for a minute. Two people in a car. Both claim that the pot isn't theirs. Should the police be allowed to arrest both and sort it out or be prevented from arresting either of them? This is common sense defined.
To: Hank Rearden
Hank,
I find it difficult to believe that a 9-0 decision like this one is that controversial on this board. Read my post immediately above and let me know what your complaint is.
To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Ever been pulled over for having a light bulb burned out? Or not having your seat belt fastened? Or not stopping for a yellow light?
Yep - all illegal in my state. I have this theory: if you're going to do bad stuff, don't bring unnecessary attention to yurself :P
To: NYC GOP Chick
I suggest that you read my response above as well.
As for why there was a search, it was probably because something triggered the officers suspicion and he asked permission. The reason/basis for the search wasn't an issue in this case and that usually means that the driver consented to the search.
You'd be amazed at how many defendants consent to searches when their case is loaded down with drugs. They admit that they gave consent but claim that they didn't know they could refuse. Fortunately, the Supreme Court has held that police cannot coerce consent, but they don't have to tell the suspect that they're free to refuse.
To: ask
Actually, yes! See above.
To: ask
"Maryland, My Maryland".....
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posted on
12/15/2003 4:03:08 PM PST
by
tracer
To: AdamSelene235
You're half-right. If you're "detained" then the police can conduct a Terry-search of the drivers compartment. That does not apply for every stop of a vehicle, however. Only if there's an arrest or reasonable suspicion to fear for officer safety.
To: danneskjold
Who should have been arrested in this case?
The driver.
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posted on
12/15/2003 4:04:52 PM PST
by
breakem
To: AZPubbie
More accurately, a reasonable suspicion "that can be successfully articulated" by the officer to a judge at a later date (e.g., arraignment, trial, appeal)....
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posted on
12/15/2003 4:06:55 PM PST
by
tracer
To: AZPubbie
You're half-right. If you're "detained" then the police can conduct a Terry-search of the drivers compartment. That does not apply for every stop of a vehicle, however. Thats what I said in my first post on the subject, # 23 .
Most stops are not contacts but rather detentions stemming from RAS (reasonable articulable suspicion). RAS can get you a terry frisk and up to 40 minutes of detention to develop probable cause for arrest.
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posted on
12/15/2003 4:07:24 PM PST
by
AdamSelene235
(I always shoot for the moon......sometimes I hit London.- Von Braun)
To: AZPubbie
You'd be amazed at how many defendants consent to searches when their case is loaded down with drugs. They admit that they gave consent but claim that they didn't know they could refuse. Fortunately, the Supreme Court has held that police cannot coerce consent, but they don't have to tell the suspect that they're free to refuse.Unless the officer can give some reason for the search, and tell you specifically what he's looking for I don't see any reason to consent. If he's asking to search, he must think there's something to find. If you don't have it, that means he's going to tear your car apart looking for what isn't there until there's nowhere else to look. Then he may just bid you "Good day." and leave you standing there with your personal effects scattered out on the ground alongside the road.
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posted on
12/15/2003 4:08:01 PM PST
by
tacticalogic
(Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
To: ask
I don't have to worry about it. I don't ride with or associate with anyone that uses drugs. I guess those complaining about the ruling will have to be more careful about who they run with.
To: ask
"You certainly wouldn't let three people with Uzis in their car leave because no one would admit the uzis were theirs," he said. And why not?
To: Lazamataz
From what I understand, if your fare is in the back seat, and the meter is on, then you are OK as far as contraband is concerned. The running meter creates a business agreement between you and that fare, so no personal relationship is established. If there is no meter, then there is no business contract. If drugs are found with no business contact established, then the driver is in it for the long haul.
To: ask
No more car pooling. Everyone must drive seperately. The problems with this verses our constituion and justice itself is just mind boggling. The USSC is the most anti-american court to ever exist.
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posted on
12/15/2003 4:14:10 PM PST
by
Revel
To: ask
Beginning to wonder if Sandra Day O'Connor is getting alzheimers/or some other malady, like a brain tumor. Seriously. She's voting wacky.
To: AZPubbie
If the officer removes the passengers out of and away from the vehicle (as is often prudent) an assertion of the "reasonableness" of a search of the passenger compartment may prove problemmatic.
A warrantless search of the trunk and its contents represents an even bigger question mark, unless a K-9 is involved or, possible, a cartridge or shell is in plain view or is found during a "righteous" search of the passenger compartment.
Search and seizure is a major headacdhe. I've seen a few training films in which simulated traffic (and pedestrian) stops and searches were independently critiqued on-camera by public defenders, senior LEOs, prosecutors, private-practice criminal defense attorneys, and local judges -- and the discourse contained therein was akin to what you hear upon telephoning the IRS for the answer to a tax question.
Talk about a specialty topic.......
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posted on
12/15/2003 4:20:06 PM PST
by
tracer
To: Looking4Truth
America is gone. Welcome to the New World Order.
Naw. America is still here. "ask" is gone, though, as should be the ACLU.
To: Revel
Forget the issue of recreational drugs. What if the item found on the floor were counterfeit money? Or a bomb? The same principle would apply.
To: eastforker
I hope you're right. The SCc doesn't break their
stare decisis doctrine very often, but it has happened. I would think, though, that if the rich or politically powerful gets caught in this lurch, it'll be handled before it ever gets to court.
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posted on
12/15/2003 4:31:11 PM PST
by
William Terrell
(Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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