[DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet]

I don't want to brawl with anyone over this, and I won't bore everyone by repeating myself...but often, selfishness doesn't have a thing to do with it. It really doesn't. I speak from experience.

[Conservative til I die]

I won't bore everyone by repeating myself...but often, selfishness doesn't have a thing to do with it. It really doesn't. I speak from experience.

While this is true, there are also plenty of instances of suicidals doing the deed in front of loved ones. IMO, what they are doing is giving the ultimate F-U to the people they blame for their problems.