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you are the one who thinks that women are out to trap you into becoming a father.

No, I simply stated that the laws on the books are patentily unfair. And that is at least a contributing factor why many men are refusing to get married.

How would they prove it anyway, since no form of birth control is 100%?

You are side-stepping the point. Lies, deceit and deception are weapons that have, are and will continue to be used against men. The laws are not concerned with these in the least. If roles were reversed, say if a husband fathered a child out of wedlock with a mistress; the reversal would find the jilted wife paying 25% of her income to the mistress's child; regardless of whether her marriage ended in divorce or not.

How many times has this happened, once?

How many times it occured is not the issue. The fact that it occurred is the issue. Whenever a system is in place that allows one party to deceive and defraud another party, without redress; the system is broken. Whether the system abuses one person, or a hundred million; the system remains broken.

The law cannot protect you from every mistake in judgment you make- if you marry a deceptive woman, the law cannot always make you whole again. It is up to you to choose wisely when deciding who you will marry. If I marry a alcoholic who cannot keep a job, I cannot complain later that it is impossible to receive a steady child support check from him. While the law supports me, the reality is that you can't squeeze blood out a turnip. Life is not fair, and full of risks, you either face them or run away.

How many times it occured is not the issue. The fact that it occurred is the issue. Whenever a system is in place that allows one party to deceive and defraud another party, without redress; the system is broken. Whether the system abuses one person, or a hundred million; the system remains broken.

The law is not perfect- it is hard to keep up with technology and the many ways humans seek to hurt other humans. Some responsibility is on you to protect yourself.

Hey Hodar, thanks for keeping up the good fight ! These FR threads are always my favorite. I've been reading them for years, and there is something I've noticed about ALL of them that is obviously missing.

In all these threads about marriage, divorce, men getting destroyed in divorce, etc etc over the past few years........

I have YET to see ONE female member of this forum EVER say that the divorce laws in this country are unfair.

It's always the same arguments:

Oh, but I'M not like that.

You're just a mean man !

You're just a whiner!

I'm happily married, so therefore, you're a loser !

I'm sure you can think of a few more of the typical responses. It's very striking that not ONE female member of this forum has EVER supported the notion that the laws are extremely biased against men. It's just amazing.

The thread THE MARRIAGE STRIKE on this forum is chock-a-block filled with examples of men (members of Free Republic) that have been absolutely DESTROYED by their ex-wives. The stories these poor guys tell about their destroyed lives are incredible.

And the female response? "HA HA, get over it. Stop whining."

And the women here are supposed to be conservative, and yet have this level of viciousness against men?

No thanks, I'll stay single. My advice to the single guys out there, with regards to women, is what those psychic hotline commericals have at the bottom of the TV screen:

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