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To: Jim Cane
"Domestic bliss" is a different concept for each person, and only achievable if both parties are completely honest about their expectations, have mutual respect for each other, and common interests. If these things aren't determined before you commit, then you are indeed screwed. It is not adult behavior to whine over what you did before you married-if you weren't ready for those responsibilities, then you should have stayed single until (or if ever) you were. And surely you should each tell the other what will NOT be tolerated-adultery, out all night, physical violence, etc. If the other person can't live with that , then you are not compatible, and people do NOT change radically. But the majority of women are not "attractive pigs" lying in wait to lure a man to marriage with sex and lies, proceed to pound him like bread dough into the desired image of her personal prince charming, then metamorphose into a raging bitch wielding a family lawyer in one hand and an empty purse in the other. I'm so very sorry you have been shat upon and it has made you bitter, but you are wrong and mysoginistic in your opinion of most women.
165 posted on 12/11/2003 11:17:40 AM PST by Texan5 (You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line..)
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To: Texan5
But the majority of women are not "attractive pigs" lying in wait to lure a man to marriage with sex and lies, proceed to pound him like bread dough into the desired image of her personal prince charming, then metamorphose into a raging bitch wielding a family lawyer in one hand and an empty purse in the other.

Are you sure? 'Cause I'm talking about the sweet, non-sluttily dressed ones here that, whether the by Jewish princesses from the Bronx who attend Hillel, or devout RCs, or Congregational Church Choiristresses, etc. And they do morph - into charging Enesco-esque Rhinosceri, more the better to stomp the skittering Kafka bug into which they've been trying to turn you (the man).

I'm so very sorry you have been shat upon and it has made you bitter,

Don't be. And don't assume that these are tears of sadness rather than laughter.

but you are wrong and mysoginistic in your opinion of most women.

You know what? It was over the top of me to call most women pigs. I love most women. Wouldn't marry one for all the money in the world, though.

174 posted on 12/11/2003 11:29:06 AM PST by Jim Cane
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To: Texan5
Quite possibly the sanest post in this thread . . . and I say that as one of the single guys. I used to be just like the guys in this thread that blame women for not appreciating how "nice" they are. That is until I finally owned up to the fact that I wasn't being nice because I was nice. I was being manipulative. I would venture to say that many of the alpha males the malcontents in this thread complain about are actually guys who are simply honest and confident about what they want.

As for manipulative females, if you can't figure out you're with one before you get married you're blind, possibly stupid or simply thinking with your--well, you get my point. I would contend the women that manage to completely disguise their true natures before marriage are the exception and not the rule.

Perhaps if you spent less time sampling "shapes,sizes and flavors" and instead sampled personalities you might find the right one.

Now if I could only take my own advice . . .
195 posted on 12/11/2003 11:51:12 AM PST by larryav8r
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